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Comcast To Buy Time Warner Cable

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by MeInDallas, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    I don't think asking Comcast to divest NBCUniversal would be out of the question for this to go through.

    On the Equipment end, Comcast took over the TWC (Motorola) network here in Houston and really still operates the same system although they have done some upgrades over the years. The exact opposite is true in Dallas which was Comcast and was taken over by TWC and still operates the same SA network. Looks like nearly all of Texas will be Comcast with a smattering of small independants and Charter in outlying areas.
     
  2. JosephB

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    Comcast will never agree to that. They are willing to sell 3 million subscribers and agree to some kind of net neutrality standard but otherwise they want to avoid any consent decrees. NBC is the crown jewel of Comcast's empire, and owning that content is one of the key parts of how they are hedging against the potential of cord cutting. They would abandon the TWC deal before they split off NBCUniversal.
     
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  4. jrtroo

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    Everyone is getting excited that Comcast policies are going to be implemented in TWC areas. Folks, in mergers often certain leaders keep their roles during and after the transition, and thus the TWC policies could float in the other direction- flags and TAs for all.
     
  5. JosephB

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    It will take a long time for anything to happen, and it won't be sudden.

    Obviously X1 will be the platform for their set tops and TWC's ODN/Navigator stuff is dead. Things like CCI bytes and TAs and whatnot will probably never be universally set between different markets and regions. It's just something that is situational based (TAs/SDV based on bandwidth of a given plant) or so obscure that no one will notice or care to put the effort into changing (CCI bytes)
     
  6. Grakthis

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    This is kinda messed up for me... I had Insight, which just finished getting merged together into TWC... just in time for Comcast to buy up TWC? So, my third cable company in 3 years? Awesome.

    Imagine how the guys on the ground feel about it.
     
  7. hfcsyrup

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    doesnt time warner also have some control over brighthouse? like when a channel goes out on twc it goes out on bh
     
  8. JosephB

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    Bright House systems were formerly under the control of Time Warner Cable until the Newhouse family, who owns Bright House and owned a portion of those systems when they were TWC, decided they wanted to split them off. They are owned separately of TWC, but Bright House outsources several things to Time Warner such as ISP functions for Road Runner, engineering support (meaning set top box software and things like the CCI byte settings), and programming negotiation.

    Presumably Bright House will have to figure out some other kind of arrangement now.
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I agree. I think TWCs use of the CCI byte on every channel was intentional and Comcast might reverse that because of their relationship with TiVo. Also all those people in TWC areas may gain access to Xfinity.

    Another positive for TiVo is that Comcast is commited to the X1 and IIRC Pace showed a prototype of an X1 running TiVo software, so it's possible they could start offering TiVo as an option again.
     
  10. tarheelblue32

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    If the regulators allows this to go through, they better demand that Comcast agree to net neutrality, no data caps on broadband internet, and commitment to the current and future universal security standard (CableCard, AllVid) for at least the next 10 years. Anything less than that would be completely unacceptable.
     
  11. Inundated

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    Yeah, I was mostly thinking of Pittsburgh.

    The Erie TWC systems are actually a part of the Northeast Ohio system. And Armstrong has stuff south of Youngstown.

    Comcast has the PA side systems near Youngstown (Sharon, New Castle, etc.).
     
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  13. dlfl

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    I'm on TWC. So far Tom Merritt (the TechNewsDailyShow) has made just one prediction regarding this merger: Former TWC internet subscribers will see data caps. :(

    Does net neutrality actually imply no data caps? I would assume neutrality just means no caps that are different for different services.

    I would love to not need a TA --- but that's not gonna happen --- there's a big infrastructure investment in SDV equipment and they're not going to throw that away.

    As for copy protection, several years ago that was a big issue for me but by now I don't care that much. Local archiving is looking less important all the time.

    But data caps would be a big hurt.
     
  14. jcthorne

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    You can have service with Comcast without data caps, it just costs more. But does come with higher data speeds too. Currently up to 300Mbps in Houston, supposed to be Gb or nearly by end of year. Not cheap though.
     
  15. dlfl

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    Sounds like you have fiber, at least down the street. Our TWC area has cable down the street and I doubt they will invest in fiber any time soon, whether part of Comcast or not. I think we can get 50 Mbps or maybe 100 Mbps soon, but I suspect anything above that will be a long time coming. And even 50 Mbps is very expensive (remembering they have a local monopoly).
     
  16. trip1eX

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    I don't think this is that big of a deal. Either company can already do what they want if they are your only tv or internet provider.

    The funny part is Comcast said that the merger will result in faster internet!!!!
     
  17. jcthorne

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    When AT&T decided to impose ridiculous caps, I opted for a Comcast Business line. No caps and 50Mbps is 99. 300 is 175 so yes expensive but as you say, effectively a monopoly. And its only 50Mbps from midnight to about 3pm. Evenings between 6 and 11 pm it drops to 9.
     
  18. Bigg

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    Except TWC and Comcast don't compete. The only major issue is Comcast's ownership of NBCU. I'd like to see that broken up, as that causes all sorts of problems and awkward relationships. Comcast taking over TWC can only be a good thing for TWC subs. Comcast sucks less than TWC. However, it will add more technologically disconnected feudal domains for Comcast to manage, and they already have a problem with a whole bunch of different systems that offer slightly different services.
     
  19. tarheelblue32

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    Comcast may suck marginally less than TWC, but once they merge I have a feeling that Time Warner markets will retain the parts of Time Warner service that suck (e.g. tuning adapters/SDV, copy protection, etc.) and add new things that suck from Comcast (e.g. data caps, outlet fees, no HBOGO on Roku, etc.). It will be the worst of both worlds for former TWC customers.
     
  20. LoadStar

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    I disagree, partially because frankly I have very few problems with TWC, but also because...
    This. Seriously, I hear so many stories that Comcast can't get their head out of their backside and can't even keep things straight *within* a market, let alone keeping things consistent *between* markets. I can't even imagine what a C.F. things will be when they're this lumbering behemoth that owns well over half the country.

    And IMO, even though they don't directly compete within a particular market doesn't make this any less of a bad idea.
     

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