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Comcast, TiVo Working On Non-CableCARD Approach

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by consumedsoul, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. sbiller

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    TiVo, once a burr in cable’s saddle when it came to next-gen video security, has been restored to an ally in the industry’s pursuit of a successor to the much-maligned CableCARD without further government intervention. -

    See more at: http://www.multichannel.com/news/technology/tivo-deals-will-pave-path-post-cablecard-world/382612

    And the integrated security ban about to be eliminated by congress...


    So now we need to wait for Comcast to create the new box which can be populated with TiVo software or Comcast X software... My guess is it will be available late next year.
  2. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    "TiVo Confirms That It Is Has Left The AllVid Tech Company Alliance...TiVo now agrees that commercial agreements, rather than more government intervention, will build bridge to the post-CableCARD world"

    Well that's just great. So instead of one standard to unify cable, satellite, and IPTV, we will get a Comcast standard that might or might not be adopted by other cable providers but almost certainly wouldn't be adopted by satellite or IPTV. I want ONE STANDARD across ALL video providers, and you will never, ever get that through private "commercial agreements, rather than government intervention".

    TiVo has clearly sold out. I wonder if Comcast has signaled to them that they might be willing to license the TiVo software for use on Comcast DVRs if they help them kill off AllVid.
  3. trip1eX

    trip1eX Active Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    except it was an announcement that they are working on a standard. IT wasn't an announcement of a standard.

    Just because it was in some FCC filing doesn't mean anything in and of itself.

    It sounds like it is a response to this

    "Last fall, Reps. Robert Latta (R-Ohio) and Gene Green (D-TX) introduced legislation that aims to “remove the unnecessary and costly” set-top security integration ban, putting forth an FCC estimate that the mandate has cost cable operators and consumers more than $1 billion. - See more at: http://www.multichannel.com/news/tv-apps/comcast-tivo-working-non-cablecard-approach/375989#sthash.ZJQg7dAx.dpuf"

    They want to show the government they are working on stuff so the government stays out of their business.

    The funny thing is they hold it up as example that the "market" is working, but the "market" would work a lot better if Comcast opened up the set top box market to retail competition.
  4. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher Member

    Nov 13, 2007
    Orlando, FL
  5. drugrep

    drugrep New Member

    Mar 16, 2002
    Woodridge, IL
    Cable boxes along with cable cards have set TV backwards to the 1970's. I remember when TV's got built in tuners and we were able to get rid of those boxes we had in the 70's.

    TV shouldn't need a box or a card. I should be able to call cable provider and read them a number off my TV. I want to see TV's get where it doesn't matter if you have cable or sat, you just call the provider and read them a number.
  6. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Well given the complete abdication of the FCC's authority over this with AllVid, what choice did they have? It's not like there's anyone at the FCC that really gives a crap given their sad history of doing basically nothing to get Cablecard replaced (other than granting an absolutely ridiculous waiver to Charter to let them do whatever they want).

    The even sadder part is that a new IP standard would probably still be cableCo specific, so the ultimate ideal of AllVid that a consumer could use a Tivo et al on ANY MSO will still be a fantasy.
  7. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    Years ago I had a HDTV that took a Cable Card, and that all you had to do, and you did not need any internet connection, however we found it a pain to use as you had no ch information as to what was on etc. When the TiVo Series 3 (not the original Series 3) came out I purchased one and moved the cable card into that TiVo, a much better experience even if you were not going to record anything. The Comcast box would have done the same thing but at the time I did not want the clutter in the kitchen. The TiVo with the extra clutter and the DVR function was a good trade off for us.

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