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comcast, stream and copy protection

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by moorashj, Sep 11, 2012.

  1. moorashj

    moorashj New Member

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    Greetings all,
    Just wondering if comcast users are running into a lot of issues with copy protection. My plan for the stream is to download to ipad but I keep on hearing that many shows are copy protected. Dont want to purchase if this is the case.
    Just looking for feedback and experiences
    Thanks
     
  2. macery

    macery New Member

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    The easiest way to know what content on your TiVos would be subject to the CCI flag is with TiVoDesktop (or kmttg, etc). Those programs are usually really good at showing you which recordings on your TiVos the Cable Cos flag as not being able to "Copy"/"Download" to your PC or more importantly for your question to an iPad.

    With the Stream you can still watch the flagged recordings on your iDevice, you just cannot have a copy saved to the device to be watched outside the range of your home WiFi connection.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yep just download and install TiVo Desktop on your PC then click the Pick Recordings To Transfer button. Anything it lists with a red slash icon will not be able to be transferred to the iPad either. However you can stream everything. (except Amazon download)

    Dan
     
  4. moorashj

    moorashj New Member

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    do you guys still see value in this if many shows are copy protected?
     
  5. macery

    macery New Member

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    eh, diminished value. It does fill a need for me now having a TiVo (or close to current TV) in my home office, I can now watch TiVo recordings and work. Was it worth the $130, maybe not immediately but I'm not complaining and who know what future S/W updates may bring.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It does exactly what I bought it for. My main purpose was streaming. My wife wont let me put a TV in the bed room because it bothers her, but she's OK with me watching the iPad on my night stand. The Stream lets me watch real TV in bed rather then podcasts.

    Dan
     
  7. tunarollz

    tunarollz Jon at TiVo

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    that's a great story. :D
     
  8. csgraber

    csgraber New Member

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    You can stream everything (even HBo). I for one haven't had the chance/ability to try transferring the shows so far. Its a pain in the ass since it takes a while AND you have to leave the app on.

    yet i still love the stream overall. Its far better than any cable company app and I have full access to shows. The only negative is it can't use the live-tv buffer. . .you have to record + delete. Which is annoying.

    I do have comcast in Denver, and most shows I could download to my Desktop when I wanted
     
  9. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I don't.

    When I watch TV on a mobile device, it's because I'm not at home in front of the TV.
    Find a way to seamlessly stream outside of the home network? Mucho valor agregado! :D
     
  10. franzey

    franzey New Member

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    Is there any reason why Tivo decided NOT to modify the icons to show you what can be downloaded in the app? There is no way to tell if something can be streamed until you try to download it. Checking on another device seems counter intuitive to me.
     
  11. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    Everything can be streamed. Not everything can be downloaded. You seem to have mixed the two in your question (which, I cannot answer).
     
  12. franzey

    franzey New Member

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    It was a mistype. I understand everything can be streamed but there is zero indication of what can be downloaded.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That'll be fixed soon. For some reason graying out the Download button requires an update on the TiVo itself.

    Dan
     
  14. franzey

    franzey New Member

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    Good information to have. I figured it was going to happen, I was just surprised that it wasn't something that was already done before starting selling the Stream which only has two features (easy download and easy streaming). Streaming works wonderfully. Of course the real problem is the cable providers blocking the download of nearly 100% of the content available. I am curious how they were able to download the content they did in the demo video.
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Depends on the cable company. Mine only blocks the premium channels, everything else can be downloaded.

    Dan
     
  16. franzey

    franzey New Member

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    I am extremely envious of that. I'm on Time Warner and be all accounts seem to have no love lost with them since nearly all shows are protected (including those reruns of shows from over 15 years ago).
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah TW sets the copy protection flag on everything except the local channels. Only reason they don't on locals is because the law prevents them from doing it. Everything else they're allowed to "protect" so they do.

    Dan
     
  18. mattack

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    But supposedly this is done by some cable companies even though the cable *networks* don't want it to be done (in some cases).
     
  19. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    TW is one of them. They block everything no matter what. I think some Comcast markets do as well. Most others only block the stations they have.

    Dan
     
  20. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    But I forgot to mention that at least anecdotally, there have been people who have posted on tivocommunity that they were able to get their local cable company (their local branch of it or whatever you want to call it) to un-block stuff.
     

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