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COAX vs CAT 5e on FIOS, which one is better?

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by GmanTiVo, Mar 10, 2014.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    It's going to use one or the other... It can't connect to the same network with both, since that would cause a circular network pattern, which would cause some major problems. It can only use both if there's no other bridge between the two networks, in which case it's the bridge...
     
  2. lemieuxfan67

    lemieuxfan67 New Member

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    I was having similar issues with my Mini (I had both ethernet and coax into Plus). I thought I read somewhere that since the Fios router already has built in MoCa, connecting ethernet to the Plus while using MoCa connection to the Mini's caused issues. My solution was to unplug the ethernet. I have not had the issues since (2 days).

    EDIT: Here is where I think I read about MoCa loops on the Tivo site:
    Check the MoCA loops
    1. You can only have one device creating the MoCA network. Verify that you have only one MoCA Network Adapter or MoCA-enabled TiVo DVR connected to your router.
    2. Verify you have not accidentally connected both a coax cable and an Ethernet cable to a MoCA-enabled DVR on your MoCA network. Doing so automatically enables Bridge mode, and the TiVo DVR will attempt to create another MoCA network rather than use the current network.
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The Roamio Pro and Plus will Bridge Ethernet to MoCA or bridge MoCA to Ethernet. It will work both ways.

    I recently set up all my MoCA capable Tivos to MoCA along with an Actiontec MoCA bridge with four GigE ports.
    Even though I have several Actiontec MoCA routers supplied by FiOS gathering dust in my closet, I did not want to use them to get a GigE connection to my MoCA devices.
     
  4. GmanTiVo

    GmanTiVo give me more options

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    Update:

    I now have completed my CAT6a and CAT6 rewiring (Monoprice.com rocks) and removed the MoCa Bridge & all COAX connectios.
    I no longer have any whatsoever latency, nor other connectivity, streaming, ect issues between the Roamio Pro and 3 Minis.

    TiVo wiring:

    FIOS ONT >> Actiontec MI424WR Gige Router in Basement->
    -> 50' CAT 6a to Roamio Pro
    -> 35' CAT 6a to Netgear ProSafe GS108 Gigabit switch =>
    => 25' CAT 6 to Mini 1
    => 50' CAT 6 to Mini 2
    => 100' CAT 6 to Mini 3

    I also went into the MI424WR's advanced settings and deleted any COAX and COAX Bridge IP addresses, none left on my networks now.

    I know the CAT 6a and CAT 6 are overkill but for a few bucks over 5e i figured i future proof everything.

    of note, I had been experiencing some dropouts on my Sonos Connect and Sonos Amps after having created the MoCa Bridge with the Roamio Pro.... now all gone.

    Gman
     
  5. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I wonder why some people have issues with MoCA. In my setup whether using Ethernet or MoCA the results are the same. No latency issues and no connectivity or streaming issues.

    Although I am not using the Actiontec router. Maybe that is the reason? I purchased an Actiontec GigE MoCA adapter. I don't like the Actiontec routers at all. I had messed around with one of the four AT routers I have gathering dust that FiOS gave me. But there was a reason I don't use them.
     
  6. GmanTiVo

    GmanTiVo give me more options

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    I hear ya and am chucking it up to the FIOS Actiontecs being finicky. They need hands on tweeking, especially in QoS and in Static IP. Who knows btw, could be me overly messing around as well :p
     
  7. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    My MoCA flakes out once in a while, but generally it works fine. And it has to go through a bunch of splitters, I have no MoCA filter, and the cable wiring in my house has been added to and added to over the years...

    The issues for MocA could be about the same for FIOS, although you don't have the MoCA filter issue.
     
  8. jay_winter

    jay_winter P4+P4XL+Mini+FIOS

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    I have FIOS internet configured for CAT5 output only, feeding my DLink wireless-N router directly. (No ActionTec router used.) The router is connected via wired Ethernet to my Tivo Premiere XL4, which provides the MoCa bridge for the rest of the house. Two computers (via Actiontec MoCa adapaters), another Tivo Premiere 4 and a TiVo Mini are all networked via MoCa from other rooms in the house, and I've had no problems since moving in last month.

    [Edited 6/20/2014]
    I should add that all of my coax connections are end-runs from a single (1GHz) 6-way splitter. Sometimes the number of in-line splitters can make a difference.
     

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