I have 2 Tivo HD units (HD 20hr R65216) with 1TB HDs each connected via HDMI to the same two TV sets. Also connected to the same main TV set with composite cables is a Tivo Toshiba Humax unit with DVD. On certain channels I do not get closed captioning from either HD unit on either TV. If I record the same shows from the HD channels with the Toshiba, the closed captioning is fine most of the time. BBC America shows often have jumbled cc. Two of the channels affected are CBS and WPIX (NYC). I know the cc is there because at times a line of dialogue will appear but then freeze so that that one line remains on screen as the show progresses until it is replaced by a newer line later on. I looked at the ALL the previous strings discussing loss of cc going back to 2006 before sending this and I did see some discussions saying that cc could not be carried with HDMI cables. My ccing is just fine on most other channels with the HDMI cables. This is annoying because I have all HD equipment but must revert to the non HD Toshiba recordings when I watch shows on these channels.