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Charter all digital

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by timr_42, Jan 24, 2014.

  1. pshivers

    pshivers Retired!

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    Did the Guided Setup on both my Roamio's and all is well now, just had to ask for a secondary channel to chose what station it was as the first one displayed was giving no indication what station was doing the broadcast.

    I did a "GS" on my three Mini's also, but it appears it was not necessary as the 3rd mini was receiving the appropriate channels before I ran the GS again... Figured it couldn't hurt to run it anyway, much shorter process than the Roamio GS.

    We had a couple of channels change numbers that we have several Season Passes setup and the Season Pass has been updated automatically with the appropriate new channel numbers.

    My wife went to the local Shopping Mall this morning where our local Charter Office is located and she said there was a customer line going out the door! Apparently many Charter Customers did not bother reading their mail from the past couple of months about the change to All Digital today! -lol- ;)

    Internet Speeds are unchanged at this point, (Not that I'm complaining...):
    35.43 Mbps Download
    04.21 Mbps Upload
     
  2. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

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    Have you power cycled your modem?
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I talked to Charter a few days ago, they said they weren't bumping us to 60Mbps until the end of the year even though we had the digital change in November. They also said that they require you to use their equipment to get the 60Mbps speed. But that it's now provided free of charge rather then $7/mo.
     
  4. tarheelblue32

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    Oh, the modem is provided "free of change". How nice of them. Of course the cost is really just rolled into the base price rather than being broken out as a line item fee, which means that people who want to use their own equipment won't be able to save money by doing so.
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Actually they told me that if I continued to use my own modem not only would I not get the 60Mbps upgrade but it would actually cost me $7/mo more then using theirs. I tried to argue, but she wouldn't budge. The whole reason I bought my own modem was to save $7/mo so what else could I do but accept theirs?
     
  6. tarheelblue32

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    Exactly, what else can you do when there is a lack of regulation and competition. I'd still complain to the FCC anyway if it were me.
     
  7. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I just fired off a complaint to the FCC. I doubt anything will come of it, but we'll see.
     
  8. jrsobx

    jrsobx Registered Abuser

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    They went all digital here on the Outer Banks of NC. The problem is that we have a LOT of houses that are beach/vacation rentals with 8+ bedrooms. Some of these houses have 12+ televisions. Now those owners have to pay for a charter box on every television. This adds up, especially since the houses sit empty for 8 months.
     
  9. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's a situation where a couple of TiVo Roamios and a bunch of Minis might pay for themselves. Or a few HDHomeRun PRIMEs and some cheap DLNA receivers.

    Would be nice if there was a simple digital TV gateway device that had 6 tuners and use a single cable card to feed live TV to 6 TVs via your home network through some sort of super cheap, Chromecast like, receiver at each TV.
     
  10. jrsobx

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    That is one of the main reasons why I'm looking for a mini...and a roamio plus!

    Now if only I could hit 15 posts so I can post in the buyers/sellers forum!
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Done. :)
     
  12. jrsobx

    jrsobx Registered Abuser

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  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    There's the HDHR Prime like you mentioned, and you could use HDHRFling with a Roku. (If you're not on TWC who copy protects everything except major networks).
     
  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    So the HDHomeRun Prime only works on non copy protected channels? That sucks? TiVo allows in home streaming of copy protected channels why can't they? Or is that only because the Roku requires the transcode?
     
  15. UCLABB

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    Same exact situation here in Riverside, CA with Charter. I had a fit when they started charging me when their crappy modem went on the fritz and they activated the modem in VOIP box. So I bought my own. Then I dropped the phone for a while. When I resumed the phone service, the tech wanted me to switch back to the combined phone/modem but I said no.

    Now it looks like I have to go to their modem to save me $7 and get higher speeds?????
     
  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The higher speeds were a promised future upgrade for me. All she could say is that most markets will be 60Mbps by the end of the year. She didn't know when my market would make the upgrade.
     
  17. tarheelblue32

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    File a formal complaint with the FCC. There is absolutely no good reason why Charter internet customers should be unable to purchase and use their own cable modem. If enough people complain, maybe the FCC will finally do something about it.
     
  18. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    No, it works with copy protected channels when used with WMC and WMC extenders like the xbox 360 and Ceton echo. When you use it with Roku it has to be transcoded with your PC and the HDHRFling app, which doesn't have DRM rights.
     
  19. rainwater

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    They won't do anything about it. Because they provide their modems for free, the FCC will never require them to allow user provided modems. Honestly, the one's they do provide are fine. They are standard docsis 3.0 modems usually.
     
  20. tarheelblue32

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    That's a very defeatist attitude. I agree it is unlikely the FCC is going to do anything, but it never hurts to try. The real issue here is that if ISPs can force you to use their own internet equipment, then they can potentially use your internet connection to provide WiFi to other customers without your knowledge or consent.
     

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