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Channel Master's DVR+ offers true subscription-free over-the-air TV recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Stormspace, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Promotion implies that I started the discussion. I've only commented about WMC after someone else has mentioned it first. I was a Tivo user long before I started tinkering with HTPCs so I still have my roots here and a long-time fondness for Tivos and DVRs in general.

    FYI - the death of WMC is greatly exagerrated. It will continue to be a viable product for as long as guide data is available or providers completely change their method of delivering content to your home. In other words, it will still be around for many years to come, regardless of how you feel about it. There just won't be any future updates to the software.

    What's funny is that you claim WMC is impossible to set up. You do realize that it takes you by the hand and guides you through it, right? What continues to boggle my mind is that you claim to be this tech savvy individual, but you can't seem to follow a simple set of instructions. If you're trying to set up some exotic feature then it might increase the difficulty level, but only slightly. There are countless tutorials and guides on the web that are available to help you with virtually any WMC modification or tweak. This isn't the rocket science you make it out to be. It just isn't that hard.

    Of course, if you have hardware issues or conflicting drivers, then by all means, blame WMC. A fresh reinstall of Windows tends to fix most WMC problems 99% of the time. If that doesn't do it then you need to look elsewhere.

    I'd be curious to know exactly what you're using your HTPC for if you're not using WMC. Are you using a different DVR app or just using it for media playback, such as music and videos? What front end and apps are you using?

    The main reason I use WMC is because it's currently the only way to record encrypted content on a HTPC. I've never made any claims that it's the best DVR app available, but I've only tried a few so I have very little to compare it with. In fact, if it hadn't been for the introduction of the Ceton Cablecard tuners, I'd probably still be using BeyondTV on Windows XP. Talk about your dead products. :D There are several other front ends that are supposedly better for DVR use, but they aren't certified by CableLabs and thereby limits their usability.

    Actually, there are lots of websites dedicated to HTPCs and WMC:

    http://www.missingremote.com/

    http://www.thegreenbutton.tv/forums/

    http://www.hack7mc.com/

    http://assassinhtpcblog.com/

    http://www.kaashoek.com/comskip/

    http://www.assassinserver.com/

    And many more beyond this. ;)
     
  2. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    WHAT? You're still promoting MCE by the way you post about it.

    It's orphaned, and unless it's available in Windows 9, which all indications are that it will not be, it will die for good on January 10, 2023. However, for all practical purposes, it's dead now, as there's no support, upgrades, or anything else for it.

    First of all, the entire UI is completely idiotic, and it's difficult to find anything in it, or even figure out what the UI elements mean. It's completely inconsistent with anything else I've ever used, Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Mainframe, ANYTHING. Then there's two separate setups needed, one for CableCard device drivers, then the one through MCE. I got mine setup and working, but for a normal person, it would be basically impossible to wade through.

    Mine was on a COMPLETELY fresh install of Windows on a BRAND NEW computer. I blame Microsoft, not MCE specifically. They built MCE, and they built Windows. You can't detach the MCE Microsoft from the Windows Microsoft when they are the same Microsoft. My HTPC is still unreliable to this day, with audio driver problems. Luckily, it's not in the critical path of much of anything now.

    VLC and Windows Explorer, and once in a blue moon internet streaming of something that's not available in any other format.

    Right. At best, they can't get HBO, if you're lucky enough to have a cable provider that uses the copy flags correctly.

    TiVo is really the only game in town for owning your own DVR at this point. MCE is dead. It brought up the client/server model that every major MSO plus TiVo has now adopted, and we can thank M$ and their kludgy product for that, but as a product itself, it's dead.
     
  3. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    This, in a nutshell, makes it all crystal clear for me.
     
  4. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Yep. It pretty much says it all.

    What's funny is that my wife is a complete moron when it comes to technology and computers, yet she's able to use WMC with virtually no problems. I say virtually because if there's any way she can get into trouble with anything technical, she'll find it. Any issues she's ever had have been mostly related to hitting the wrong input button on the remote and not the use of WMC.
     

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