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Channel Master's DVR+ offers true subscription-free over-the-air TV recording

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Stormspace, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    I'd be curious to know where you can pick up 100 OTA channels in one geographic area that you can actually receive and see on a TV screen. I'm located between Baltimore and D.C. and I get about 51 channels when I run a scan, many of which I can't actually receive. In reality, I can actually receive about 30-40 channels, and most of them are sub-channels. I get duplicates of all of the major network channels from each market, a couple of independent channels, and 4 or 5 PBS channels, all in HD.

    I echo the sentiment regarding Tivo's guide data. I can't recall any instances where it was wrong unless there was a last minute schedule change that occurred too late for Tivo to update it.
     
  2. donald26

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    I recently bought a Tivo Roamio to use with local over the air signals.
    It was not very good a pulling in all the local channels which I receive well using my new Samsung tv.
    I installed a tuner from Hauppage in my pc. It also works well in pulling in local tv signals.
    Has anybody else been having issues with the Roamio atsc tuner?
    donald
     
  3. tenthplanet

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    The trend for OTA is down, the market is shrinking, and a lot of people can't get OTA reception. Don't get me wrong I use OTA myself but i also see the handwriting on the wall that people in our government would just as soon sell off the frequency ranges for wireless internet/ advanced cell phone networks sooner than later.
     
  4. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    So are you for real? Or just another Channel Master Pimp?

    Most people (including me) have found the Roamio OTA tuners to be very good. In my setup my Roamio OTA tuners are as good or better than any other tuners I have used including my Panasonic TV & HDHomeRun.

    On the outside chance you are for real, if your Roamio's OTA tuners are significantly different than the other tuners you mention I would assume you had a defective unit.

    Just a note for other readers this account (donald26) was just opened and used to post 2 negative comments about Roamio & OTA reception. Once to bring the channel master thread back up and again in anther thread where the channel master was mentioned as an option.

     
  5. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    Other than the fact that you don't get 90% of the content that you get on cable.

    This whole "cord cutting" thing is ridiculous. It's just a small minority of cable subscribers who don't watch much, if any TV in the first place.

    TiVo is only able to compete in this space because their OTA DVR is one of the very few OTA DVR solutions out there, and primarily because most of the people who buy it are using with CableCard.

    From the Zatz article:

    I think this is key, and price point is going to be extremely critical in this market. That market is very underserved since most DVRs come from the MSOs.
     
  6. PaJo

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    I read about the Channel Master DVR in another forum thread about a new tablo? apparently there are about 3 OTA dvrs availalble these days that can be used without a subscription. I seem to remember the Tivo series 1 allowed you to use it without a subscription but it was extremely limited use. I don't plan on dropping Tivo but not sure we will ever replace our current HD Tivo when it dies. We fall into the category of those that really do not watch much regular TV, finding we use Netflix streaming more. My wife has 1 morning talk show that she likes to watch while exercising and that must be live, I ended up setting up a small antenna feeding the tv at her exercise bike. We are currently trying the Redbox Instant as well but that lacks the selections Netflix has to offer. A few shows we would use our Tivo for can be seen with no commercial interruptions via a seperate Roku channel. I never thought I would be annoyed with fast forwarding through commercials but after a few years with services like Netflix, I prefer no commercials. I think the day is coming that we no longer use Comcast/Verizon for anything other than an internet connection. On the other hand, after more than a decade of hearing the Tivo beep with every press of the remote we may have a hard time adjusting to not having it.

    On edit: for a while I had a pretty good external directional antenna hooked up to the HD Tivo, it worked but not satisfactory because of our location, it would have to be turned too often, and the multidirectional antennas did not work as well. The external antenna was only good for 1 or 2 channels at any one setting, and some times when turning it, even though it registered the correct location it would be off enough to affect the signal.
     
  7. vurbano

    vurbano New Member

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    And risk some windows update rebooting my PC in the middle of the superbowl. That kind of thing is why I have stopped short of letting my HTPC do that kind of thing. I do processing, burning, storing and transferring with it. Even recording to it via analog component cables from the tivo but I wont go there. Guess Im paranoid but I dont trust Bill Gates with my TV experience.
     
  8. moedaman

    moedaman New Member

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    You do know that you can manage Windows updates so that nothing happens unless you want it to? I've been using WMC since 2006 for ota recording, and while I do use Tivo's (for cable), I've been very happy with it's reliability.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Seriously? :rolleyes: You know you can schedule auto-updates anytime you want, manually authorize them or even disable them if you don't use the PC for anything else right?

    This is not a valid reason to not use a PC.
     
  10. Bigg

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    MCE is rather unreliable. I had it for a very short period of time, and then came back to TiVo. What a mess MCE is. Sure, you can schedule updates, but there are a million and one other things that can go south on a PC and screw up the experience.
     
  11. PaJo

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    Over the years I have gotten very angry at people at Tivo for some of the decisions they have made but with well over a decade of use I do know Tivo has been extremely reliable doing what it does best, time shifting/saving TV. I do not know and therefore can not say the same about any of the newer DVR offerings from various alternative sources available today, will have to wait and see how well they perform over time.
     
  12. kamban

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    Normally I don't comment in this section but there was a link to this thread in a similar thread going on in HH.

    For the record I have had HD home run and connected to a Win7 HTPC and using Windows media Center I have recorded hundreds of shows reliably over the past 3 years with no interruptions.

    The autoupdates get done but reboot does not occur until I decide to do it ( usually after I finish watching a program). I also have a TiVo Series 2 for Dish satellite just for 2 international channels that my wife watches.

    TiVo is reliable but so is the Windows based based DVR.
     
  13. Bigg

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    HTPCs are a mess. The hardware sucks for the intended use, the drivers are unreliable, etc, etc. I like having one, but I learned from my mistake that they should NEVER be in the critical path between the TV provider and the display.
     
  14. tenthplanet

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    The thing I have always liked about Tivo's if the power goes out and comes back the show(s) are recorded, clocks are blinking, PC is off, but the Tivo has reset itself and recorded. A nice appliance running on Linux that just records TV.
    Life is complicated enough, TV should be easy.
     
  15. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    For the 14th million time - no, it's not and there wouldn't be an entire website dedicated to it (TGB) if it was. Please stop extrapolating your experience as if it is everyone's, because it's not.
     
  16. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Give it a rest, Bigg. Bitterness and hatred doesn't serve anyone. By now the entire internet knows how you feel about WMC. I've seen you trash it in every HTPC/WMC-related forum I've ever been to and you get rebuffed at every turn. Nobody's buying it, except maybe tripleX.

    That being said, is it possible to keep this thread on the original topic and discuss the ChannelMaster DVR rather than turning it into another WMC crapfest?
     
  17. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Yes would be interesting to hear what real owners have to say. Of course we could just go over to the AVS Forums nice long thread there.
     
  18. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    I find it rather amusing that you continue to promote MCE, which is basically a dead product at this point. A big part of the reason is that it's near impossible to set up. Yes, I technically got mine working, but it was a glitchy PITA, and my computer and networking skills are in the top couple of percent in the general population, and I couldn't get it working right. It wasn't a marketable product, even for the tech savvy.

    What's even funnier is that you come on a TiVo forum to sing the praises about MCE.
     
  19. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    I owned both, since MCE was a disaster, and I came running back to TiVo. Wish I had known what a mess MCE was in the first place, but at least most of the money I dropped on the MCE machine is still useful as an HTPC...
     
  20. tenthplanet

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    Be careful about that, it's turning into another They eat their young thread over at AVS..
     

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