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Can I Record one show and watch another at the same time with Toshiba SD-H400?

Discussion in 'DVD TiVo Units (Archive)' started by Brahmabull, Feb 13, 2010.

  1. CuriousMark

    CuriousMark Forum Denizen

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    Use the IR blaster from the TiVo DVR to control the Digital To Analog converter box. Make sure you rerun guided setup on the TiVo so it can learn to control the converter box.
     
  2. kirkd

    kirkd New Member

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    never heard of an IR blaster..that is neat. Do any other TiVo models use the IR blaster? I'm looking to get an over the air Tivo and there seem to be quite a few with NTSC tuners...could be the cheap, easy way out!
    Thanks.
     
  3. CuriousMark

    CuriousMark Forum Denizen

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    All Series 1 and Series 2 models use IR blasters for controlling cable boxes, satellite boxes, cable company DTA boxes or Over The Air Digital Converter boxes. The series 2 units with two tuners are not designed for use with OtA Converter boxes, although they can be faked to work with some models.

    All newer TiVo DVRs sport cable card slots and NONE of these will work with an outboard box or allow connection of an IR blaster cable.

    For what you want to do, you will be limited to the older models, but they will work.
     
  4. kirkd

    kirkd New Member

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    Great info. It's not necessarily what I want to do, but what I want to pay. I would rather have one box with onboard tuner, but I don't want to spend more that $200. I would like just a DVR for OTA recording but it seems the only way to do that is and older unit, series 1 and 2 (single tuner) with an IR blaster to DTV converter...
     
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    kirkd New Member

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    So I bought a series 2. I'm assuming it has and ATSC tuner...why can't i just hook the antenna directly into the TiVo? I tried, but it doesn't seem to work?

    Using the Digital to analog converter, how would I trick the Tivo?
    Thanks,
    Kirk
     
  6. lpwcomp

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    Why did you assume that a series 2 has an ATSC tuner? The first Tivo with an ATSC tuner was the series 3. The series 4 Premiere and Premiere XL also have over-the-air ATSC tuners. The Premiere Elite/XL4 is cable only.

    Most of the series 2 TiVos have support for external ATSC tuners (the so called "coupon box"). You have to use an IR blaster to control it. Just do guided setup and select the external box that you have.
     
  7. kirkd

    kirkd New Member

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    I assumed mostly because of this weird little site run by a company called Tivo that makes the statement it has an ATSC tuner...weird, huh? Or the fact that the table they provide is useless.

    htp://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/300[/url]

    and this strange little statement...** Series2 Single Tuner DVRs with the 542 Service Number Prefix DO NOT support antenna signal input.** well mine doesn't start with 542 so I "assume" that it does support antenna signal input. Hope that answers your question.

    Now, back to my original question: Using the Digital to analog converter, how would I trick the Tivo?
     
  8. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    The only error I saw in that table was where it indicated that a Series 1 supports OTA ATSC.

    Sorry, no it doesn't. You quoted the footnote but ignored the part of the footnoted entry that says "Requires digital converter box and software 9.2 and above". The footnote was just informing you that the 542 series single tuner doesn't support antenna input at all. It was the only single tuner model that didn't.

    And I answered it earlier - you don't have to "trick" the TiVo. For the official TiVo instructions, go here. For a list of compatible converter boxes, go here.
     
  9. CuriousMark

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    If you have a 542, then it doesn't support antenna input because when it was produced it didn't have a built in ATSC tuner as was required for antenna support by the FCC at the time of sale. It is pretty much no different than other series 2 single tuners made earlier. It is slightly crippled in software so that it would meet the FCC mandate. That crippilng means that it cannot officially work with a ATSC to NTSC converter box. However, it can be fooled if you have the right box.

    There are threads from early months after your unit came out here at TCF that describe how to do what you want, but it will take some good search skills to unearth them. As I recall, the trick is to get a converter box that uses the same IR codes as a cable or sat box and then jump out of the setup wizard at the right point to have the TiVo get OTA guide information, but use this "cable/sat" box to tune it.

    If you find a thread where this is being done by dual tuner owner, whatever worked for them will also work for your 542.
     

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