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Can I Ip control an unsubscribed Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by smalis, Jul 20, 2012.

  1. smalis

    smalis New Member

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    I have a Tivo Series 3 that I control over IP, on my home wifi network, and it works great.

    I am thinking of buying a used Tivo (HD or Series 3) for my bedroom, to use as a tuner (with a CableCard, without a Tivo subscription) for my bedroom TV - much less expensive than renting a set top box from RCN.

    Does anyone know if I can connect an unsubscribed Tivo to my wifi network, and control it over IP?

    Thanks.
     
  2. True Colors

    True Colors Member

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    Never gonna happen.

    Without a subscription the HD Tivo is just an oversized doorstop.

    TC
     
  3. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    You can use an unsubscribed Tivo as a tuner only. It will be like using a dumb cable box. You will only be able to control it with the remote control. No guide data. You can only change channels using the up/down arrow key or by directly entering the channel number from the numeric keypad.

    If you are going to do this, I recommend getting a Series 3/Tivo HD. At least that way, you will still have a 30 minute live TV buffer on both tuners.
    The Premiere line has the live TV buffers disabled on boxes with no subscription.
     
  4. shwru980r

    shwru980r Active Member

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    You will get pop up screens nagging you about not having Tivo service.
     
  5. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    I don't think we actually know the answer to this.
     
  6. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Yes we do.
    The key to doing anything with a tivo remotely is the MAK. An unsub'd Tivo has no MAK. No MAK means you can't do a damn thing with it remotely.
     
  7. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    No, the MAK is not required for the IP-based remote control service. (I refer here to the old, "Crestron" interface, not the new, "iPad" interface. But that's the only one that works on a Series 3 anyway.) In fact there is no authentication at all for the remote control service. It just has to be enabled in the menus.
     
  8. replaytv

    replaytv gun talk ignore list

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    If you get a Premiere with old enough software you can still have the live TV buffers and manual recording, but it is a pain to work with. The time will be off too.

    If you can put up with a standard definition box and what to go the cheapest with basic features, go with a Pioneer or Toshiba DVD/DVR for about $40 on ebay that has basic Tivo for free. It only has 3 days of TV guide and no internet features other than guide download, but much better than working with unsubscribed TiVo.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    How long have you had your current unit?

    Lifetimed or monthly payments?
     

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