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Caller ID on television with TiVo Roamio & Premiere / caller ID on TV without cable

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by HiFi777, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Active Member

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    You can do better than that. A Comcast line is just a VoIP line. Ooma will get you the exact same thing for around $5/month in taxes and fees. Personally, we use Google Voice with an Obihai box for our landline and it's completely free, though we do pay 80 cents/month to another VoIP provider for E911 service, since that isn't included in Google Voice. If you are paying more than 10/month for a home phone line, then you are doing something wrong.
     
  2. LoadStar

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    I didn't think you could use Google Voice with Obihai anymore.
     
  3. tarheelblue32

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    You can. Google said they would end XMPP support on May 15, but they never did. GV still works just fine with Obihai. That could obviously change at any time if Google ever decides to shut it down, but until then I'll still be enjoying my free home phone line. That uncertainty is actually why I threw Ooma in my previous post as another alternative.
     
  4. lessd

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    Does this type of line have the same quality as the Comcast phone line? I know both are over VoIP but (as I understand it) Comcast has a dedicated IP channel for their phone service as apposed to a service like Vonage (cost more than I am paying). Do these other services work with a Fax ? and with normal phones connected.
     
  5. tarheelblue32

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    I obviously can't speak for every VoIP service and device out there, but my setup using the Obihai hardware with Google Voice actually has better voice quality than my old traditional AT&T phone line had. It also works with the same traditional wired telephones and fax machine I was using with the AT8T line.
     
  6. lessd

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    Why do you need Google voice with the new Obihai hardware ??
     
  7. DeltaOne

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    Does 911 service work the same on on a Comcast/VOIP line as a POTS line? On a cell phone?

    Specifically, if you dial 911 and for some reason can not or do not talk to the dispatcher -- they know your exact location and will dispatch help.

    I'm pretty sure this would not work with a cell phone and may or may not work with a VOIP line. Anyone know?
     
  8. mpnret

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    The OP missed one in his "preemptive answers". Panasonic talking caller ID works great, at least for me. Cost $99. on sale at Costco for 5 handsets/chargers. Includes a digital answering machine if anyone has a use for that. Also has link-2-cell (bluetooth) so whenever our cell phones are in the house they automatically connect. I use Teleblend for my VOIP landline. Been with them back since the days when they were called Sunrocket. I could dump them and just use the cells now that we have the Panasonic system but I keep them for some of the nice online features they have like voicemail, unlimited selective call blocking, simultaneous ring, forwarding to name a few.
    If TiVo offered caller ID I wouldn't even turn it on.
     
  9. tarheelblue32

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    Obihai hardware allows you to connect a traditional landline telephone to a VoIP service, and Google Voice is the only VoIP service that is completely free.
     
  10. telemark

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    GoogleTV hardware has HDMI pass through with overlay. I don't know if it's possible to make the pop-up service you need.

    Ooma encrypts the channel to the server, so it's hard to get the CID data. There's another protocol that runs over HomePNA for the scouts, idk what format that's in.

    My experience with Panasonic Voice CID has been terrible because the CID name is full of abbreviations, which is hard for a computer to know how to pronounce. This would different if you populate the phone book with full names of the callers.

    I'm guessing the RCN CID is using the mind RPC. If someone could grab a capture of this, it might eventually be possible to emulate it.
     
  11. tarheelblue32

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    Modern cell phones use GPS to estimate your location and that information is sent to the 911 dispatcher. It can usually get them pretty close to your location, but it's not always perfect.

    If your VoIP line includes 911 service, and many of them now do, then you usually enter the address you want them to use for your location when you sign up, and if you ever dial 911 that is the information they send along with your call. Comcast just sends along the service address associated with your account.
     
  12. DeltaOne

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    Then I would never want to use a cell phone to call 911 for emergency help.

    If they've improved VOIP/911 integration, that's a good thing.
     
  13. mpnret

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    That may be true if the only method of determining the location was by GPS. You do understand the first thing they ask is the location. GPS location is just for backup in the rare occasion where you aren't communicating. According to fcc.gov as of 1/17/13 70% of all 911 calls were on cell phones and that number is rapidly increasing.
    A quote from the conservative Consumer Reports: "Overall, we think that dropping your home landline and making all calls—including 911 calls—on a cell phone is generally a safe bet, based on our analysis and data from our survey."

    VOIP, no problem. My home address is registered to my number.
     
  14. DeltaOne

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    What if a medical condition causes a severe problem after dialing and you're not able to give the dispatcher your location? Or some other problem where you have to dial but then can't talk?
     
  15. tarheelblue32

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    It is a very rare circumstance where you are able to dial 911 but not able to tell them your location. But in that event, the GPS should give them your location within a few dozen feet. This is usually good enough for single-family housing. If you live in an apartment complex, it becomes a little trickier. They may have to knock on some doors to find you or contact your cell phone company and ask for your billing address.
     
  16. lessd

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    A home invasion and you are hiding in a closet and don't want to talk to give your position away by the bad guys hearing your voice.
     
  17. tarheelblue32

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    Smart criminals cut the phone line before entering.
     
  18. DeltaOne

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    True, but it can happen. So, for me, a dumbed-down Verizon POTS line at $20 a month is great piece of mind.
     
  19. tarheelblue32

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    At $250/year a very expensive peace of mind, given the cheaper alternatives available. POTS will be eliminated in a few years anyway, so you better figure out where your "piece of mind" will come from then.
     
  20. lessd

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    I have a phone line but it not used, (so cut away) and the cable is in ground and can't be easily cut.
     

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