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CableCard Purchase

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by onecastdan, Nov 24, 2006.

  1. jasel

    jasel New Member

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    According to their website you can buy cards for $125 or lease them for $2.95 a month for each card. A little steep compared to some, but better than paying for something that will probably be out of date in a couple of years.
     
  2. ADent

    ADent Active Member

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    Contact the FCC and complain.

    The rule is that Cable Companies will be required to use CableCards for their equipment too - to create a level playing field. Problem is they keep petitioning the FCC to remove that rule or at least push it back a few more years.

    Contact the FCC and tell them to hold the line.
     
  3. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    Jasel
    Could you tell me where it stated that you can rent cablecards on Service Electric's website, as I am very interested in doing this. I went to there website and I could not find anything on renting cablecards.
    Thanks, Dan :confused:
     
  4. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    Jasel
    Could you tell me where it stated that you can rent cablecards on Service Electric's website, as I am very interested in doing this. I went to there website and I could not find anything on renting cablecards.
    Thanks, Dan :confused:
     
  5. SullyND

    SullyND L:45-21 TCF Club

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    http://www.sectv.com/cable_card.html

     
  6. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    Thanks for the info. The site you gave is a different franchise than the one I'm with out of Sunbury PA, however I will still bring this to there attention and maybe I can use it for leverage.
    Thanks, Dan
     
  7. srauly

    srauly New Member

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    Dan, please post back with what you find out. I'm in the process of moving from CT to Warwick township / Pottstown / Chester County, PA and found out that Service Electric (www.secv.com) is the cable company there. When I called them a few days ago they told me the same as you (they sell the cards but don't lease them). I've been contemplating getting a S3 TiVo but adding another $250 to the cost (for the 2 cablecards) is hard to swallow. :(
     
  8. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    SRAULY
    Yes you do have the same cable provider as I do. I will let you know as soon as I hear from them. My provider said they will all meet in mid december with there other Service Electric branches, and this will be brought up to find out how they want to work this out. I will also keep calling them to get this resolved. It would help If you can call your Service Electric cable supervisor before the meeting to push for a cablecard rental and no second recurring service fees. The more complaints they receive the better the chance they will do something about it.
    Thanks, I'll keep you posted, Dan
     
  9. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    Service Electric called and said 125.00 per card, however there will be no additional monthly service fee for the 2nd card. So I guess I'm going have to dish out 250.00 extra to get the S3.
    Dan
     
  10. samo

    samo New Member

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    Out of curiosity, do they provide any kind of warranty on these cards? Quite a few people here reported defective cards or cards going bad after a while. Bad card is not a problem if it is rented, but if you own it - what happens if it goes bad in few months?
     
  11. srauly

    srauly New Member

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    That's the part that worries me the most. I didn't realize these cards were so flakey, but it sounds like they are. FWIW, I went ahead and ordered Service Electric's HD-DVR package for about $88/month plus $8/month for the HD-DVR box. This package includes their $43/month cable modem service, so I'm basically paying about $53/month for expanded basic (Comcast terminology), plus some digital channels, plus several HD channels, and their Comcast dual-tuner HD-DVR box with iGuide software.

    If I want another HD-DVR box for another room, I think I pay about $8/month (for the box) plus $4/month for the DVR service, but since I'm planning on keeping my TiVo service active until I decide on my long-term plans, I'll just use one or both of my TiVo's for recording shows for my daughter.

    I know that I'll hate the iGuide UI in comparison to TiVo (and I'm a software developer who is very much into the field of usability), but there's a limit to much one can justify paying. In order to have my cake (HD) and eat it too (TiVo), I'd be looking at shelling out about $650 for the S3 unit, plus $250 for the cablecards (which I'd be worried about flaking out once their probably short warranty period is over), plus $13/month for the service (if I moved my existing service over to it and deactivated one of my TiVo's), and all I'd save on my cable bill would be $8/month. So net difference would be about $900 up-front plus $5/month ongoing.

    I'd really love to support the best DVR UI out there (TiVo), but they're making it awfully hard for me to do that.
     
  12. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    samo
    The warranty is for 90 days, and no extra monthly service charge for the 2nd card.
     
  13. entropy

    entropy New Member

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    And it's hard to justify paying for UI development when your customers complain about price. Developers can create a bad UI, but UI researchers can't create a bad codebase.

    ~ Kiran <entropy@io.com>
     
  14. rstuffy

    rstuffy New Member

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    I had zero success w/SECTV in Pennsylvania. The first two cards installed by their sevice dude failed to setup. I then took a day off work to return the two cards to SECTV office for new ones. The new ones failed to set up. Return those for new ones and they failed to setup, etc., etc. TiVo Tech support could only verify the cards were bad. I then gave up, returned the TiVo3 and switched to cable with their DVR. A major disappointment for me and my family. There has to be a better way.
     
  15. onecastdan

    onecastdan New Member

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    I ended up going through 2, S3 tivos and alot of cablecards and waisted time. Tivo blamed cablecards and cablecards blamed tivo. That nightmare was back in Jan 2007. I finally gave up. I still have my S2 tivo but I really would like to get the S3 tivo. Is there anybody Out there that has had any success with SECTV in Pennsylvania (Shamokin, or Sunbury).
    I was hoping that over time S3tivos would update there hardware to create a smoother cablecard install. I will probably give it a try again in a month or two. All I want is to have a working S3 tivo with cablecards.
    Anybody else have any thoughts.
    Dan
     
  16. srauly

    srauly New Member

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    Bumping this thread. My Birdsboro, PA Service Electric bill had a 2008 channel and pricing insert and it looks like you can now rent the cable cards ($2.95/month). Not sure if this is a new development or not, and I'm not sure that I hate their Motorola boxes enough to justify the steep investment in a HD TiVo, yearly contracted TiVo monthly fees, and cable card rental fees, but it's nice to see that there's finally an option other than having to buy two cable cards from them at over $100 a pop.
     
  17. Korleonis

    Korleonis New Member

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    $125.00 each, hell Intermittencable... I mean Intermountain cable of eastern Kentucky rents then out for $175 a month. not encluding your regular cable.
     
  18. SullyND

    SullyND L:45-21 TCF Club

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    Wow! That's $2,100 year just in cablecard rental!
     
  19. Korleonis

    Korleonis New Member

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    Yep, but their solution is to rent their DVR for 10 Bucks a month. with is not Netflex compatible, because you have to buy their movies at 5 bucks a pop.
     
  20. Sapphire

    Sapphire Xtal substance

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    Sorry for bumping an old thread but I am also on Service Electric in NJ (Sparta system) and I thought I'd offer some insight into my experiences with them.

    First, not all the Service Electric cable companies are the same company. They used to be when John Walson was alive but before he died he split them up and gave his sons each a system. Our system is owned by Ed Walson. Yep, that's right, Service Electric is a family owned company. They were also the first cable company in the nation.

    My experience with cablecards initially was that I had to buy them for $125 a piece. I paid the price back then. However, the cards came with no rental fees other than an "additional outlet" fee of 50 cents each per outlet (not per card). Since we have two TVs and one Series 3, the first outlet and digital SD box was free, so currently I pay NO equipment rental at all.

    In my quest to move to Windows 7 MC I called up about new cablecards and they said that they are no longer selling them but instead leasing them for $2.95/month. This is true for the Sparta NJ, Mahanoy City PA and Wilkes-Barre PA systems which are owned by Ed Walson.

    The other systems (Sunbury, phillipsburg NJ and others) may have the same policy because they cooperate on a lot of things (even though they are independent companies).

    Again, sorry for the bump but hope this helps.
     

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