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Cable Co. announces move to all digital... and I own a few STDT. Now what?

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by tough joe, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    Just got this notice in the mail - see this link - http://www.advancedcable.net/coralsprings_dta.php to inform us that the cable system is going all digital. Here is my set up. 2 hdtv's 6 months old. 1 crt tv 20 years old. Now for my tivos. I have two series 2 Dual Tuners, and 1 Tivo HD. I use all dual tuners regularly and TTG and MRV. I cannot lose any of these functions. The cable company customer service rep says everything will continue to work because i have tivos connected to my tvs. Also, the video on the website above titled "Do you need a dta?" ( a gray button in the middle right side of the page) - the video says "if you have tivo, you're fine." However a few people have told me never to trust the cable company when it comes to conversions like this...

    so my question is - will i be fine? Will my dual tuners continue to work? will all my tivos work as i explained above? i dont want to get digital cable boxes at all... any help or info is very appreciated. thanks,

    Anthony
     
  2. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    Unfortunately, the S2 analog dual tuner functionality will not work with an all digital system. They will need a cable box or DTA and will be limited to one tuner only. The TiVo HD should be fine though.
     
  3. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    But it will need a cablecard from the cable co.
     
  4. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Active Member

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    Comcast did that in our area a few years back and gave every one who wanted it a digital converter. But they also offered the digital starter package at the same price as the analog package but threw in all the music channels, on demand, and some movie channels for the same price. So it was worth moving to the digital starter package. My parents made the move and are glad they did.
     
  5. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Active Member

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    They have to give him the 1sr cable card for free for the tivoHD. The second should cost about $2.
     
  6. lpwcomp

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    If it is a true TiVo HD and not an original Tivo Series3 High Definition, it only needs one multi-stream card, which is what they are supposed to issue anyway.
     
  7. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    so i'll need to get rid of my dual tuner s2 tivos and replace them with s3 to keep my dual recording options?

    i read online that directtv now has dual tuner tivos? is that an option?
     
  8. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    You can't use your TiVo HD with DirecTV and DirecTV TiVos can only be used with DirecTV.
     
  9. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    lpwcomp - thanks for your help. From what I gather, here are my options. Is this correct?

    1) stick with cable and change out the Series 2s and replace them with digital tivos (premier 4 and upgrade the hd myself - or buy premier 4 xl) series 3?) with cable cards. (I dont want to use ir blasters or use a cable box - just the tivos) then sell my old tivo's on ebay (they have upgraded hd's and have lifetime service)

    2) go with directv and get the new tivos from them. ( I dont know anything about directv or their tivos. How are they? Will I be disappointed?

    3) I have uverse available in my area but i hear way too mang bad things about them - plus i dont like the whole room dvr as i record hundreds of hours of programming on each of my tivos... and the whoel room dvr wont cut it.

    What do you guys think of what I wrote? any help or suggestions.
    I dont watch sports, so directv sports packages are not my thing.

    Again - thank you thank you thank you all for your help. :)
     
  10. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    You could get used TiVo HDs or Premieres with PLS from eBay or Craigslist. CableCARDs are rented from your cable company, not purchased. You can't use an external cablebox with any of the Series3(your Tivo HD is a Series3) or a Series4 (Premiere). The latest Series4 models - Premiere 4 and Premiere XL4 have 4 tuners but are digital cable only, no over the air capability. The original Premiere and Premiere XL have 2 tuners but have OTA capability.

    Probably. You cannot transfer nor stream recordings from/to them.

    No TiVos on u-verse.

     
  11. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    what is irritating is that even though technically the cabel co. says my tivos will continue to work, the functionality is being reduced (going from dual tuners to single tuner - which sucks).
     
  12. tough joe

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    Ok - Uverse is out. And definitely no Directv because I must have tivo to tivo transfer.

    So my only choice is to get new tivo's - premiers xl most likely . I have never used or dealt with cable cards. What should I know before I start diving in this?

    thanks
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    You might start with http://www.fcc.gov/guides/cablecard-know-your-rights. That way, when you look at http://www.advancedcable.net/FAQ%20CableCARD.htm, you'll know that the part about requiring a technician to install a CableCARD is a flat out lie.

    I would suggest that you call them about getting a CableCARD for your TiVo HD if there is not one already installed. That way, you can fight any necessary battles with them now and hopefully avoid them when you acquire the Premieres. First though, post the exact model # of your TiVo HD.

    It would actually surprise me if there isn't a CableCARD already installed since you cannot fully utilize any HD cable channels w/o one.
     
  14. SNJpage1

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    I don't under stand why you are fighting the change to go digital. Did you check to see if the pricing is as I mentioned with my parents? Either way you are going to lose one tuner in each ser 2 Tivo. However, you will gain a better signal and more channels to watch.
     
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  16. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    That was helpful. :rolleyes:
     
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  18. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Active Member

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    They mention the cable cards all the way near the bottom. It's strange the way they word it. They say the card is included with the box charge. Comcast uses cable cards built into their box. Looks like their box uses a card that gets installed on location. Either way the Fed's say you are you get one for free.
     
  19. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Where do they say that?
     
  20. tough joe

    tough joe New Member

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    You could be correct - but 1) this switch is going to cost me about $600 per tivo unit - so about $1200 (2 premiers plus lifetime srv), and i didnt ask for it. 2) my monthly bill looks like its going to go up. Im only interested in channels 2-99. but now i need to get 6 cable cards - at $2 each means $12 more per month?? im not happy about that either... im thankful to God that I can afford these changes, but im just not happy about it. no reason for the change except to charge more money...
     

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