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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, Sep 29, 2013.
But we knew that.
He probably meant to say something like "Is Jesse the only one still alive who killed someone else?".
Not really, only in the very broadest sense. No specific spoilers. I haven't seen some of them (The Wire, for example), and didn't feel spoiled by what I read.
This link, BTW, is the one I was referring to a few posts up, about the list of all-time greatest shows. Very worthwhile read.
Thanks! I just read the article, and it's a very interesting analysis of the shows. I then randomly stumbled across this article by Damon Lindelof. It was supposed to be about the Breaking Bad finale, but he ends up talking more about the Lost finale instead ...
Oh duh - oops.
I have never watched the last few episodes of Battlestar Galactica because I was behind in finishing it and heard so many places that the ending stunk. I wasn't even spoiled by anything specific, but I just somehow never got around to watching it, even tho I have it recorded. Maybe I should go and do that.....
Besides loving this show and being sad that it's over, I had a bit of a connection to the music in the finale.
My parents had that Marty Robbins album when I was a kid, and for some reason I liked "El Paso" and listened to it over and over. Haven't heard it in 40 years, and there it was. And the story in the song does kinda sorta fit with Walt in BB. Though maybe Jesse is "Filena." I also think it's possible that Walt went in to the AB compound with the intent to save Jesse. Calling out Uncle Jack on not killing Jesse could have been a way to get him to produce Jesse. Not saying it's probable, but possible. A lot of things had to fall into place, but a lot of things had to fall in place in general in this episode.
I've always loved "Baby Blue" and if you like the song, there is an impossible-to-find cover version by a guy named Phil Keaggy that is incredible. Phil is a guitar guy so the song is more guitar heavy, but not overboard. The album is called "Blue." I bought it on ebay years ago because I couldn't find it online.
As for what to watch now, if you haven't seen Orphan Black, I recommend it. It's between seasons - season one is over and season two starts next year. It's similar to Breaking Bad in that the lead is incredibly talented and it draws you in right away (there's no "just wait until episode four and stuff starts to happen" with this show), but other than that it's pretty different.
VG said in the Colbert interview posted above that Walt's "Precious" is the blue meth and the lab he created. That's his "Felina" that he's coming back for.
I am VERY familiar with Phil Keaggy's music. He is one of the greatest acoustic guitar players in the world (IMHO), and even plays missing half the middle finger on his right hand.
Saw Phil in concert once at my college, amazing guitar player.
Since VG said that it is, and it's his show, I don't think it's open to interpretation. Then again, half the people still disagree with Lindelof's explanation of what went down on Lost ...
"Baby Blue" is now at 9000%
That's Heisenberg level...
We just know that the clueless record company made AMC pay huge bucks for clearance so AMC could promote the song and sell lotsa copies for the record company.
So they made money twice, wish I was that clueless.
Eventually the world will be right and such as AMC will charge a promotional fee.
Note that among the advertisers for this last episode were Mercedes-Benz.
Listening to the Talking TV Podcast and man were they negative about the finale. The biggest complaint was basically that Walt got what he wanted which was quite a shift for the shows tone (In EP1 he wanted money for his family because he was going to die, he got that).
They made a point about how few minutes Jesse got in the final 8 episodes (compared to earlier) and since he was many people's favorite character it seemed off.
My conclusion now. I would have ended at Ozymandias, Walt going with the relocator but defeated, Jesse dead or chained cooking. Earlier I was not a big Hank fan but the show lost it's power when he (and Marie) were gone.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think there's a statute of limitations that puts music in the public domain after 20 years unless the rights are renewed. It automatically enters public domain 70 years after the author's death. It's possible, but not likely, that AMC probably may not have had to pay any royalties to use it.
I am assuming spoilers from any part of the series is allowed in this thread?
Anyways, I had one thought that keeps coming up. The final episode of S4 where Gus dies, the famous Faceoff scene. Loved it, as it was a major jaw dropping moment in the story. He walks out and then you clearly see half his head missing. When I saw that scene, I felt like the story suddenly took a turn toward the suspension of disbelief route. Almost supernatural.
And yes, we can debate all sorts of aspects of the show that are hard to believe, but for the most part, almost all other events were based in the possibility of reality. Do people agree that the faceoff scene was the only scene that pushed the limit of non supernatural belief?
I only thought about this because, prior to Felina, I wondered if the grand finale would include another such impossible to believe scene. But obviously they kept it grounded in reality. So what's the deal, in hindsight, you either say that the faceoff scene was out of place in an otherwise non-supernatural story. Or, you can try to explain the scene by saying people can stand up and walk for 10 seconds with half their face blown off.
I thought the head on the tortoise was pretty crazy.
Loved it, but crazy.