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Breaking Bad - S05E16 - "Felina" (series finale!)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, Sep 29, 2013.

  1. Oct 1, 2013 #361 of 760
    uncdrew

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    The first season or two of LOST had me counting the days. We had parties to watch together.

    It totally fell apart for me and got ridiculous to the point I was almost done with it. But for a period of time it was gripping.
     
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    uncdrew

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    :(

    Want to. Love the genre. Don't want to pay for HBO. Trying to figure out a legal way to watch it free.
     
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    betts4

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    A Galaxy...
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    cherry ghost

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    JohnB1000

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    What he says now isn't that important, it's what people say in 5 years that matters.
     
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    brianric

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    I disagree. It is the best time piece series I have ever seen.
     
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    brianric

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    :up::up::up:
     
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    jsmeeker

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    Make friends with someone who has HBO.
     
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    Ereth

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    It's anti-semitic, misogynistic and racist. By episode 5 I realized I hated every single character on the show and was only watching because the sets were interesting. That's when I gave up.

    Which, admittedly, is interesting in a thread about a chemistry teacher who turns into a drug dealer, but somehow, there remained parts of Walter White which were not despicable, and while everybody was complex, they (almost) all had things about them you could like and relate to.

    Sure, I get that the characters on Mad Men were products of their times and their hateful attitudes are just "part of day-to-day life", but it doesn't make me nostalgic for the 1950s, it makes me cringe to watch it.

    There's a scene in Boardwalk Empire where a devout christian takes his jewish co-worker and literally drowns him while trying to get him to convert to christianity, and that scene is distasteful and difficult to watch. But Mad Men felt like that every week. I kept thinking to myself "who is the everyman here? Who is the character I'm supposed to relate to? Or failing that, who am I supposed to like and/or root for?" and there wasn't anybody. Nobody has any redeeming qualities that I could see.

    Perhaps that changed in later seasons?
     
  10. Oct 1, 2013 #370 of 760
    jsmeeker

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    it's set in the 1960s, not the 1950s.

    Not that it really changes your argument. But it's a really good representation of what life was like then. I think. I wasn't alive then.
     
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    Ereth

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    Jacksonville...
    Sign up for HBO for one month. Stream the entire previous seasons through HBO Go. Turn HBO off until next year.

    $15 it'll cost you for 3 seasons of some of the best TV I've ever seen in my life. Maybe less if you catch it on one of those "get HBO free for one month" promos.
     
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    Bierboy

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    I was, and it is.

    That said, I think BB has the edge over MM...however, they are VERY different animals. So comparing them is somewhat an exercise in futility...
     
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    astrohip

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    'Breaking Bad' finale song 'Baby Blue' posts huge 3,000% sales increase

    http://www.hitfix.com/news/breaking-bad-finale-song-baby-blue-posts-huge-3000-sales-increase

    I will confess I've listened to it about 20 times in my car since Sunday. I have a USB drive I play in my car with about 6,000 songs on it, and a search turned up four Badfinger songs, including Baby Blue.
     
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    uncdrew

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    That is quite similar to my free plan, where my wife makes her yearly call to Comcast to get us back on the promotional pricing but I'm asking her to get some free HBO added.

    Or else we walk to U-verse. ;)
     
  15. Oct 1, 2013 #375 of 760
    uncdrew

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    The Devil with a blue dress on guys were seen sulking in the corner.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2013 #376 of 760
    mr.unnatural

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    Just watched this last night. One of the things that sets this finale head and shoulders above so many others is that it offered closure to a well-told story. After seeing the POS that ended Dexter, this was more than a welcome relief. I second the sentiment about Six Feet Under in that it also provided closure to a great series. Too many finales just leave you guessing and disappointed.

    Sure, there were some holes in the plot, but what script doesn't have a few? In order to make good TV you have to stretch the boundaries of reality a bit to make things work. The bit about the watch just showed how much attention they paid to details. My wife and I usually make a game out of spotting flaws in shows that have no concept of continuity or staging (the magic glass that mysteriously changes fluid levels with the camera angle is the most common and easiest to spot). Anyway, here's my take on the finale.

    When Walt talked to his son in the previous episode he finally realized how badly he had screwed up his life and everyone around him, especially those he cared for the most. I'm pretty sure he was already aware of this to some extent, but when his son read him the riot act it finally hit home. Seeing Elliott and Gretchen on TV gave him a way to start making amends by setting up the trust for his kids. The money no longer held any meaning for him as he had already lost everything that really mattered.

    When he got back in the car with Badger and Skinny Pete and found out that the blue meth was still being manufactured, he realized that Jesse was still alive. This was one more chance for him to make things right. First, he had the opportunity to take revenge for Hank's death as well as save Jesse. Killing Lydia was the way to break the chain so that no more meth would get distributed or produced. Having Jesse kill Todd was just a bonus.

    In the end, I saw Walt as both a hero and a villain, albeit a badly broken one (or would that be Broken Badly? ;) ). He lived his life to the fullest, but paid dearly for it. The one question that remains is whether or not Walt's cancer had actually gone back into remission. Having a full head of hair just meant that he stopped the chemotherapy. The telltale cough indicates to me that he still had cancer and that he was resigned to it being terminal. He basically had nothing left to lose, hence the suicide mission to save Jesse and take out the bad guys.

    This show will be hard to top as one of the best ever. I really hope that Vince Gilligan takes another shot at a TV series because this was simply brilliant.

    FYI - Walt's first kill was when he strangled the gang member that tried to rob and kill him and Jesse in the first season. He didn't succomb to the toxic fumes Walt released in the RV in the 1st episode so they shackled him to a pole in Jesse's basement with a bike lock. I think he did the deed in the 2nd episode, but I'd have to go back and check.
     
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    Hank

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    Good points.

    One thing though -- when Walt found out that Jesse was still cooking, he assumed he was in partnership with Jack, and not being held as a slave. (Jesse already flipped to the DEA, so why wouldn't Walt think he flipped again to work with the AB?). So I think Walt went there to primarily assassinate the entire AB crew, and "deal" with Jesse one way or another. It wasn't until he learned that Jesse was being held against his will that he decided to rescue/shield him from the gunfire. Either he had planned to kill Jesse, or let Jesse kill him (as he offered). But I don't think he went there expecting to "save" Jesse.
     
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    jkeegan

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    Can I ask a favor? I've ignored the few times it's happened because I don't want to nag during the final thread, but can people please stop spoiling the end of other shows? I can almost see St a Elsewhere and Six Feet Under because the were a while ago, but Dexter JUST ended, and now I'm reading left and right here whether it's finale was good or not. Please don't spoil stuff for those of us a few seasons back. We even have rules about this here.

    Sorry/thanks.
     
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    ct1

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    Crossover from the "federal government shutting down" thread: Colbert's Breaking Gov
     
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    TAsunder

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    I don't see how Breaking Bad will ever be better than the Wire in my own mind. If anything, Breaking Bad might fall below some of my other all-time favorites like Deadwood. I am not saying it WILL happen, but that's the only direction I can see it going. The Wire has permeated my very being and changed how I view the world. Breaking Bad was just a really, really good story.
     

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