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Breaking Bad - S05E15 - Granite State

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by GoPackGo, Sep 22, 2013.

  1. Sep 23, 2013 #61 of 494
    kaszeta

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    Yeah, my first place had running water. 30 foot dug well (with a crappy rotting wood cover: Timmy, get off the well before you fall in!) with a pump. When the power was out you could literally lower a bucket.

    I think I will start greeting visitors with "Welcome to New Hampshire Mr. Lambert!"
     
  2. Sep 23, 2013 #62 of 494
    Marco

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    That's what I figgered.
     
  3. Sep 23, 2013 #63 of 494
    markymark_ctown

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    it's not the destination, it's the journey...
     
  4. Sep 23, 2013 #64 of 494
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    I have a different take than some of the other responses. I thought what pushed Walt into full on Heisenberg mode was when the wife in the tv interview (can't remember her name) said something along the lines of Walt White is not out there still running things; the sweet man that was Walt White has been gone for a long time. I thought that when she said this, it caused Walt to finally come to grips with the fact that whatever his original motives, he was no longer the guy who was just trying to look out for his family. He broke bad a long time ago, but this was the moment where whatever tiny fraction of Walt White had lingered finally disappeared, leaving nothing but Heisenberg behind. And Heisenberg ain't turning himself in.

    I would guess that it was two different batches. The conversation with Lydia was definitely early in the timeline because it took place at a time when we know that Skylar was still living in the house (Todd having paid her a visit at a time that seemed like the night before meeting Lydia). We know that there was a three to four month time jump on the Walt side of things, so I suspect that the scene with Jesse being told 96%, which was right before he tried to escape, also occurred after a time jump, but I'd have to rewatch to confirm.
     
  5. Sep 23, 2013 #65 of 494
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    Yeah. He only cared about his money in terms of being able to leave it for his family. The reason he ignored Saul's advice was because he still held out hope that there was some way to make everything he had done not be for nothing.

    Once his son refused it, he only had one way left to protect his family: turn himself in.

    But then Gretchen and Elliott's interview happened where they denied any involvement on Walt's part in the formation of the company, and that not only tweaked his ego, but made him realize that he no longer had any legacy as Walter White. Everyone from his son to his old friends were distancing themselves from him.

    Thus, he needed to leave a new legacy as Heisenberg. He wants revenge, but I think he also wants recognition. So he is planning on combining the two by going out in a moment of glory. Whether that plan ends up going the way he intends is another story.

    I think they were two different cooks. The first was just getting Lydia's attention. And the second was some time later after Jesse had been cooking for a while. I think the purpose of the different percentages was to tell us that, not to make us think that Todd was playing weird mind games with Jesse.

    Exactly. Killing people and disposing of their bodies in a manner such that he wouldn't get caught would actually be a lot more work. And most people he relocates are probably either pretty much already giving him their life savings or are dangerous people whom he would not want to mess with.

    Plus, I think he does have his own sense of morality such that even though he is helping people evade the law, he is not a thief or murderer. I actually believed him when he told Walt that he wouldn't take any of his money even though he realized that Walt wouldn't.

    For me, where he ended up hiding out wasn't important. And that he would end up leaving was obvious from the fact that there was one more episode. So any spoilers from the flash forward were more than made up for by the suspense they gave of, "How did Walt get there?"
     
  6. Sep 23, 2013 #66 of 494
    ellinj

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    Another good episode although I think they jumped a bit to far from the DEA knowing nothing to the DEA knowing everything.
     
  7. Sep 23, 2013 #67 of 494
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    I wonder how much money did Saul had with him after the "escape". He did profit a lot from Walter, but he said the best he can do now is a managerial job at Cinnabon.
     
  8. Sep 23, 2013 #68 of 494
    wouldworker

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    I don't get why people are saying that. They told Skylar to go away and rack her brain to come up with information about where Walt may be. They want her to trade information for her freedom. She hasn't told them anything. They don't have Jesse's confession. Marie didn't know any details. The DEA has nothing.
     
  9. Sep 23, 2013 #69 of 494
    Bryanmc

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    I think he was just contrasting his fall from lawyer with power to not being able to professionally do more than a mall worker. I don't think it was a comment on his financial situation.
     
  10. Sep 23, 2013 #70 of 494
    kaszeta

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    One little detail that stood out to me in this episode that didn't go anywhere: When the DEA agents came with Marie back to the house and found it broken into, there was a DVD lying on the ground when they came in.

    If that DVD was Hanks copy of Walt's fake confession, they'd know most everything. If they digested that and figured out that Hank was (a) dead and (b) not the ringleader, they'd otherwise be able to piece together most of the rest of it.
     
  11. Sep 23, 2013 #71 of 494
    Paperboy2003

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    So does this set up Odenkirk's spin off.....Saul is a manager at a Cinnabon in Nebraska while also trying to build a thriving (il)legal practice of helping ciminals?
     
  12. Sep 23, 2013 #72 of 494
    Fahtrim

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    I thought it was just different batches.
     
  13. Sep 23, 2013 #73 of 494
    Bryanmc

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    Yeah, I was wondering if that was *the* DVD.
     
  14. Sep 23, 2013 #74 of 494
    Bryanmc

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    I thought the spin-off was "confirmed" to be a prequel to BB.

    Though Saul working at a Cinnabon could be awesome as well. :D
     
  15. Sep 23, 2013 #75 of 494
    Fahtrim

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    You mean Andrea?
    He did tell them all that he tried to save Hank but nobody was listening.
    The guy playing Todd was also great in Saturday Night Lights.
     
  16. Sep 23, 2013 #76 of 494
    DarkMatter1968

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    I just don't think he can get to everyone who dissed him in the last episode of the series. He wants legacy, WW reputation is clearly gone, that is what Gretchen and Elliott's interview showed. It put the fire back in his belly and he is going out totally as Heisenberg, he might "redeem" himself with Jesse in the end. My .02 is he will get his money back from the AB and probably die alone from the cancer as poetic justice.
     
  17. Sep 23, 2013 #77 of 494
    Bryanmc

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    Even better in Friday Night Lights. ;)
     
  18. Sep 23, 2013 #78 of 494
    kaszeta

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    I'm pretty sure the gun is going to be for the AB. I suspect some sort of shootout will go down, and, near the end, he'll find himself point a gun at Jesse. And decide to let him walk. But purely a guess.
     
  19. Sep 23, 2013 #79 of 494
    Beryl

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    Yes. That is why it reminded me of his role (Max Cherry) in the Tarantino movie, "Jackie Brown". Both roles has Forester calmly, cautiously, and fearlessly willing to bend the law but not taking additional money not due him.
    Yes. I also interpreted that he could "manage" to purchase a Cinnabon franchise. I laughed out loud when he flipped his comb-over when taking his ID photo.
     
  20. Sep 23, 2013 #80 of 494
    Fahtrim

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    The spin off is still a prequel right? So with that knowledge, no this would have nothing to do with a spin off.
     

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