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Breaking Bad - S05E14 - 09/15/2013

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by GoPackGo, Sep 15, 2013.

  1. JohnB1000

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    One thing with the phone call. At first it wasn't clear that people in the room could hear what Walt was saying but clearly they could. Surely Marie knows what was said was untrue so will she hold this against Skylar ? I am guessing Jesse doesn't know that much about Skylar's involvement so it's Marie who knows. I am thinking Marie now believes Skylar was coerced to some degree + she's the only family Marie has left.

    Despite obviously wanting to see how it ends I am not left desperate for next week like I have been the last few. No specific cliffhanger.

    I wouldn't worry about Walt on the side of the road, that was really just a plot device, you had to see him there to know where he had gone. It seems odd though that such an efficient "Disappearing" service would give him a new ID with the same birthdate !!!.

    Mostly forgotten this week but Lydia needs to factor into the resolution. She can't just be forgotten about.
  2. wouldworker

    wouldworker _

    Sep 7, 2004
    MA, USA
    I thought the same thing. If it was really a baby saying those lines they must have spent many hours getting her to do it or they lucked out and found a baby who is a great mimic. More likely, I think, is that they dubbed her voice and the mouth movements were just normal babbling. If you've seen those "ridiculously bad lip reading" videos you know that your brain gives a lot of leeway on matching mouth shapes to the sounds that are supposedly coming out of the mouth. As long as some phonemes match the corresponding mouth shapes you let a lot of mismatches go by.
  3. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe ♪♫♪♪♫♪♫♫♪

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA

    She doesn't know that though - even moments (hours?) before at the car wash, Marie expressed her opinion that she was sure that Skyler had been coerced to some degree.

    I really like the Todd character. Every bit as rotten as his uncle, but with just a glimmer of remorse that is constantly being subdued by the needs of the present.

    You just know he saved Jessie (it puts the lotion in the basket) to impress Lydia by getting her higher quality product.
  4. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    did they say that baby was 18 months old? that can't be, right?
  5. SugarBowl

    SugarBowl Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    Cary, NC
    does Jessie know how to make the mustard gas ?
  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    Second in my opinion to Vic Mackey...
  7. markp99

    markp99 TakoKichi TCF Club

    Mar 21, 2002
    Nashua, NH
    I heard 18 months. Not sure if that conflicts with the plot timeline.
  8. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Agreed. I can't think of any other show that has consistently gotten better each season. Most other shows either start going downhill or at best level off.

    As sad as it might be that the show is going to be over soon, at least it is ending on a high note instead of at a point when we are all tired of it. And as we feel the pain of losing the show, I'm sure the cast and crew are feeling the joy of finally being able to talk about it!

    It doesn't matter how bad his father is, that doesn't justify lying to the police. The whole point of the show is that the ends do not justify the means. He wanted the police to go after his father, and did not want to implicate his mother at all. That's why he altered the situation to make her completely innocent in all of it. He was willing to lie to protect what was left of his family.

    That lie is what made Walt realize that he had completely lost his son. And while it paled in comparison to what he had done, I think he saw a part of himself in his son, and that scared him. I wonder if his phone call to Skylar wasn't just about giving her an out, but also painting himself as such a bad guy for his son to ensure that he would not go down a similar path.
  9. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    I still wouldn't call that action "breaking bad". Yes, he lied, but that's FAR from "breaking bad"...
  10. nyny523

    nyny523 Oy

    Oct 31, 2003
    New Yawk
    He lied to protect his mother.

    Not breaking bad.

    That scene was heart wrenching - seeing the son that idolized his father come to terms with the truth of who his father really was. Then the baby snatching and Skylar's panic - OMG. I was crying.

    Simply. Devistating.

    The writing and the acting in this show will be sorely missed...
  11. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I disagree. They have $70million....time to vanish, not cook.
  12. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    Houston &...
    I know you're joking. It was clearly Let's cook.

    One of the greatest scenes of one of the greatest episodes of one of the greatest series ever. When an episode physically moves you, it worked. A visceral gut-wrenching hour.

    Agree. This show would have been over if Jesse had just shut up. Heisenberg is retired, Meth Damon is cooking, Saul gets his spinoff, Skyler becomes a car-wash tycoon, yada yada. Jesse's inability to STFU caused ALL of this. Hence Walt's rage. RAGE.

    And to think we have two episodes left! :)

    I read an interview with him a few weeks ago, and he talked about how this has turned into the greatest character he will ever play. He knows he will never find a role like this again, that sometimes lightning strikes, and he was lucky enough to be there when it did.

    She nailed that "...mama"
  13. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe ♪♫♪♪♫♪♫♫♪

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA
    Pretty freaky after having watched Doctor Who's "The Empty Child" episode just minutes before...
  14. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Plus, we don't know how long he had been waiting. I imagine that he didn't roll the barrel there himself, so he must have gotten dropped off (most likely by Saul or one of his men). And since the "eraser" was known for his punctuality, he could have been dropped off less than a minute before we saw him sitting there.

    It will be interesting to see what happens to Saul in the next episode. Hank and Gomez taking Huell is going to put the DEA's focus on him even if Huell and Skylar don't talk. So I wonder if Saul is also going to go into hiding.

    There are only 365 days in a year, so having the same birthday wouldn't make it any easier to find him. And conversely, having a different birthday wouldn't add any additional protection if other things led to him. Thus, he might as well keep the birthday he is familiar with.
  15. uncdrew

    uncdrew Annie 2.0

    Aug 6, 2002
    Down South
    My list of nit-picks:

    1. Walt sitting on side of fairly main/busy street while the entire city is looking for him. [Perhaps was only a few minutes and Saul's guys drove pick-up away]

    2. Walt rolls barrel and finds a house? Wow, what luck? [Certainly possible]

    3. Walt knows the right switch to flip to make a firetruck's lights go off and those don't get noticed immediately [couldn't he have just set Holly down next to the truck?]

    4. Something left me uneasy with Uncle Buck stealing Walt's money. Obviously they're opportunistic thieves, but still they were doing a job for Walt and then just robbed him.

    Otherwise an ok epidsode. I give it a six.

  16. Fahtrim

    Fahtrim Member

    Apr 12, 2004
    My big and only issue with this episode is that Skylar just took Marie's word that Walt was arrested and then told Junior. Is she really that dumb? What happened to "trust but verify"

    I guess you can claim that she just plain "knew" Marie wasn't lying, but still no proof for something that HUGE and she just out and tells Junior right then.
  17. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: to your list.
    My nit picks: nit-pickers. Especially about such an amazing episode!!
    (but you're entitled to your ridiculously impossible standards)

    Just as Walt was fooled by Jesse's phone call about finding and burning the money because he was called to action before he could calmly process what was happening, Skyler was compelled by Marie's assertiveness in her claims. She knew that she hadn't seen Walt since he ran from the car wash in a panic, and she had just left him a message on the cell phone when Marie arrived.
  18. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    uncdrew found it hard to believe that mass murdering meth dealers found $80 million and stole it :eek:

    The only part hard to believe is that they left $11 million of it! :p
  19. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    Some of my thoughts nitpicks:

    Why would you even bother packing clothes when you have cash? Personal items I could understand like pictures, but not clothes.

    Todd is crazy for still wanting to cook after getting all that money.

    I was floored when Walt gave up Pinkman!
  20. gchance

    gchance 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Dec 6, 2002
    Olivehurst, CA
    There's no way the baby's 18 months old. Walt turned 51 in the pilot, when Skylar was still pregnant (as seen in the flashback). He's 52 in the flash forward, so this is sometime late that year. At best, Holly's got to be 11 months old.


    I'm firmly of the belief that this is how Family Ties should have ended.


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