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Breaking Bad S05E07 "Say My Name" OAD 08/26/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by TheMerk, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    Because you obviously are. The obvious has already been explained to you twice. Here's a third time. When the DEA presents the search warrant (or court order or whatever) to the bank, the bank will check their records and find all the safe deposit boxes which the lawyer has access to, including Kaylee's, and then open them and show them to the DEA. Then the DEA would take the cash, including Kaylee's, since it could easily be linked to Mike.

    I'm wondering if you don't understand how things work. The DEA would be in a lot of trouble if they just used the lawyer's keys to open safe deposit boxes without a warrant or court order -- any evidence they obtained that way would not hold up in court. Assuming they did not have a warrant when they first showed up, all they could do was confiscate what was already in plain sight (the suitcase full of money, the one open box). But the DEA would obviously get a judge to issue a warrant, then they would come back and get the bank to give them all the other safe deposit boxes.
     
  2. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    This must be at least his tenth post about people on his ignore list. Has to be the most publicized ignore list in history...
     
  3. EscapeGoat

    EscapeGoat wPod

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    Maybe next season we can have separate 'Nitpicking' and 'Non-nitpicking' threads.
     
  4. Anubys

    Anubys KMT Soccer Playa

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    It's a research into how big an idiot some people are.
     
  5. Legion

    Legion New Member

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    Chekovs Safety Deposit Box
     
  6. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    Even Sepinwall agrees:

     
  7. brianric

    brianric Active Member

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    :up::up::up:
     
  8. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    Then it must be obvious! :D
     
  9. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    You keep saying that "it's obvious." I don't think that word means what you think it means.

    But I'll tell you again, that's all just YOUR OPINION. Like ass*oles, everybody has one.

    And I understand "how things work". I also understand that people and organizations make mistakes and overlook things.

    You can NOT say, with 100% certainty that it will happen that way. I can say with some degree of certainty that *it's possible* it could happen a different way. That's all I'm saying, it's possible. And it is. You're saying it's 100% not possible. THAT IS INDEFENSIBLE. It seems like you're the one that doesn't understand "how things work".
     
  10. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I agree with Alan, except he got one detail wrong. He said that the lawyer was accessing Kaylee's box on the day he got busted. This isn't true. He accessed that box the one time, and presumably the plan was for it not to be opened again for 10+ years. However, that doesn't really matter. The lawyer had access to it, the bank would know that, and the bank would cooperate with the DEA. The bank would have nothing to gain (and much to lose) by not disclosing that final box to the DEA.
     
  11. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

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  12. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    Finally you are beginning to understand! You went from your initial ridiculous claim that it is likely, to now just grasping at technicalities and saying it is possible. Sure, it is possible. It is also possible that aliens may have come down and taken Kaylee's money away before the DEA could get it. Or that, by Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, all of Kaylee's money tunneled quantum-mechanically into a neighboring box and the DEA never found it. It is good of you to point out these things.
     
  13. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    I'm not grasping at technicalities. It is fully within the realm of realistic possibilities that the DEA doesn't get a hold of the big box. That's all I'm saying. I also never said it was likely. By the way, I never called your OPINION "ridiculous."

    I'll be laughing all the way to the bank when they reveal during the series finale (next year) that Kaylee got her big birthday box.

    Oh good god, I'm done here.
     
  14. bobino

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    Does the DEA have access to all boxes touched by the attorney at the bank just because he is busted accessing a certain box? (in this case, a certain 9 other boxes)

    I don't think so, even if he accesses other boxes on the same day as he accessed a box connected with known criminal activity. The lawyer still has ACP for other clients. The DEA won't get search warrants to access other boxes at the bank.

    When I have had a safe deposit box at a bank, every access is signed on a little card every time I made access to the box. The bank notes the time and date. When I shared a box with my wife, we both were named as owners of the box and our names and signatures were what gave us access (along with a photo ID). Just having a key does not get you access to a safe deposit box. The entire box access scene was not particularly realistic.

    Nonetheless, how is Kaylee going to access this box when she turns 18?

    The busted lawyer is not Mike's attorney. He is most likely Kaylee's attorney. The arrested attorney would have granted her access when she turns 18. Since he is very unlikely to still be practicing law, the busted attorney will transfer his other clients to another attorney. That new lawyer will grant access to the box for Kaylee. Hence, the money is safe for Kaylee.

    -Bob
     
  15. john4200

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    Oh, drat, now you are backsliding. It is definitely NOT "in the realm of realistic possibilities" that the DEA will fail to find Kaylee's money.

    You need to work on your word choice. A "good chance" equates with "likely" to many people. If you meant there was a small chance, then you should have written "small chance". Or more accurately, "infinitesimal chance".

    As for laughing if the Breaking Bad writers write something ridiculous in the future, I'd say you have a good chance of getting to laugh at them. The writers do write some ridiculous things.
     
  16. TheMerk

    TheMerk Always Bid First

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    Or this... [Possibly NSFW?]

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  17. john4200

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    That is very unlikely. In cases where people are caught with large amounts of dirty cash, the judges and law enforcement are usually quite liberal in confiscating it. The DEA would have no trouble getting a judge to agree to let them open all the boxes the lawyer had access to. Especially if one of the boxes was in the name of Mike's granddaughter, who was just recently found to have an account into which Mike had been storing dirty money (although I doubt Mike would have let them put the box in her name, it is probably just in the lawyer's name and maybe some fictitious name or trust).
     
  18. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    Once again, still only your OPINION. Not fact. I don't think you can understand the difference.

    Now who's the one "grasping at technicalities"?
     
  19. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

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    Now who's backsliding? Now you're saying if it is possible, it's the writer's fault.

    Nice.
     
  20. pmyers

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    Somebody mentioned that Mike's $5million was an advance from the Phx crew...I don't believe that to be the case. Walt specifically said to think of it as a finder's fee. I don't believe that Walt is in debt to them for $5million.
     

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