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Breaking Bad S05E05 "Dead Freight" OAD 08/12/12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by bsnelson, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. Aug 13, 2012 #61 of 211
    Mikeyis4dcats

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    the type of measuring wheel Jesse used counts off feet. it was 814 feet.

    IIRC Hank called the Houston FBI field office, THAT is who planted the GPS. Not uncommon for inter-agency communication to be piss poor.
     
  2. Aug 13, 2012 #62 of 211
    Hank

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    I'm going to look into this but I'm 99.999% sure they don't stop and start diesel locomotives like you do a car motor. Just because he took out a key does not mean he shut down the entire locomotive. For such a short stop, I'm sure they left it idling.
     
  3. Aug 13, 2012 #63 of 211
    john4200

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    I think you are right. Have you ever noticed at truck stops the truckers leave their diesel engines on for hours rather than stopping and starting them? I guess the same thing would apply to a diesel locomotive.
     
  4. Aug 13, 2012 #64 of 211
    Hank

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    They said the watered down methylmine would be blamed as a bad batch from the Chinese. They would have no need to investigate further.

    The kid could have come from the opposite direction so nobody would have heard him approaching, so there's no telling how long he was there.
     
  5. Aug 13, 2012 #65 of 211
    tivoboyjr

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    Good points. They do have to kill Lydia. She's made it clear that she is devoted to her daughter so if it's a matter of her going to prison or turning in Walt/Jesse/Mike, she's turning them in. Plus, now that they've got their methylamine, they don't need her. She's also proven that she can and will put out hits, so they need to get to her first.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2012 #66 of 211
    getreal

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    Maybe the gigantic workgloves helped to steady his aim. :p

    If only there was some sort of tracking device on your Garmin ... :D

    Having that scene with Walt showing off his watch to Hank, and saying that he bought it for himself, I believe that was a Chekhov's gun.

    The watch will connect Jesse to Walt, and Hank doesn't forget a thing. He remembers Pinkman. The watch will be crucial in connecting the pieces of the puzzle in Hank's mind.

    Todd is a loose cannon and will need to be dealt with. Mike, Walt & Jesse worked hard to plan the heist so as to avoid a body count, and I was surprised how open they were in sharing info with Todd.
     
  7. Aug 13, 2012 #67 of 211
    john4200

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    Walt may have said that it would be blamed on the Chinese, but that is not what would actually happen.

    I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the kid. Of course they would have heard his motorcyle, unless it was drowned out by the noise of the pump. In which case he could have been there for quite a while (the pump was turned off near the end, so he had to arrive before they turned it off). Which is what I wrote in my previous post.
     
  8. Aug 13, 2012 #68 of 211
    robojerk

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    Walter wants to stop the hazard pay, but doesn't know who the 9 are. He needs her to either give him the info, or broker a deal with her to let her off the hook in exchange for hiring another hitman.

    Ohhhh! Good point..

    Edit:But the only way to track the sale is if Jesse used a credit card, or if Hank looks into who bought the watch (but he would need a reason to). He would need to know the serial number of Walter's watch. Or by some chance Jesse left the sales receipt in his car, and Hank sees it.
     
  9. Aug 13, 2012 #69 of 211
    Hank

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    As far as the methylmine nobody knows what "actually would happen" we can only go by what the show tells us, which is what I'm going on.

    For the kid. exactly. We don't know how long he was there. He could have just arrived when they turned off the pump or he could have arrived when they turned it on. The pump was running during most of the heist. So they would not have heard him approach. So again, we have no way to tell how long he was there.
     
  10. Aug 13, 2012 #70 of 211
    getreal

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    When Jesse handed the watch in the box to Walt, he said that the receipt was included, in case he wanted to exchange it for another one. So Walt has the receipt, but the sales clerk will not recognize Mr. White.

    The watch is not suspicious yet, but I'm sure it will come up.
     
  11. Aug 13, 2012 #71 of 211
    DevdogAZ

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    Walt was sitting there in the creekbed looking back and forth between the pump and Jesse the whole time. You'd think he would have seen someone sitting there on the other side of the bridge, or would have noticed the movement in his peripheral vision. So I think based on the fact that he didn't see it, we have to assume that the kid just showed up as the train was pulling away and they were celebrating.

    But ultimately, it doesn't matter. The kid saw them, saw the scene of the crime. Whether he was there for 30 seconds or 30 minutes, he had to be dealt with.
     
  12. Aug 13, 2012 #72 of 211
    DevdogAZ

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    I don't see why the watch is such a big deal. It's not like we're talking about a $100,000 watch that there's no way Walt could realistically afford. I just looked it up and that watch costs about $4-5k. Sure, it's expensive. But Walt and Skylar just finished paying for a ton of Hank's medical bills. They just bought a million-dollar business. And Walt just bought himself and his son brand new cars. So if Hank is suddenly suspicious about Walt buying himself a $5,000 watch, that's unrealistic, IMO.
     
  13. Aug 13, 2012 #73 of 211
    Bierboy

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    Completely forgot about the kid on the bike...but as soon as I saw him at the end, I knew he was a goner. Didn't lessen the "holy $6!t" moment, though...
     
  14. Aug 13, 2012 #74 of 211
    john4200

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    No, while they were celebrating, the pump was already off. The kid had to arrive when the pump was still on, or the motorcycle would have been heard.
     
  15. Aug 13, 2012 #75 of 211
    robojerk

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    I think we might be thinking too much about the watch by itself. It's just the combination of all the sudden excessive spending, Skylar suddenly wanting the kids out of the house saying Walt is a bad influence, that will probably cause Hank to look into what the hell is going on in the White household, and since he can look into financials he might unknowingly set the DEA on Walter and Skylar.
     
  16. Aug 13, 2012 #76 of 211
    DevdogAZ

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    Nope. Watch it again. The pump stayed on quite a while. They all ran down there and were hooting and hollering, Jesse shouts, "Yeah, *****!" etc. The pump is on this whole time. Then someone shuts off the pump, and then that's when they hear that there's still another sound in the background, and they look over and it's the kid.

    They didn't notice the kid until about the last 30-45 seconds of the episode. The only reason they noticed the kid is because they heard his bike after the pump got shut off. Are you thinking that they shut off the pump, did a bunch of celebrating, and then noticed the kid?
     
  17. Aug 13, 2012 #77 of 211
    Bierboy

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    As somewhat of a railfan, I noticed there was only one loco for the train, so the gross weight of all the railcars couldn't have been too great. Also it wasn't going very fast, so I suppose it's plausible it could have stopped in the given distance. But it certainly left to chance whether they would have stopped the loco right at the crossing or with a lot more distance to spare leaving the target tanker nowhere near the trestle...
     
  18. Aug 13, 2012 #78 of 211
    DevdogAZ

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    I think they had to have been prepared for the tanker to be anywhere within 200+ feet of the trestle either way. It made it easier to shoot the scene with the tanker right above the wash, which is why they shot it that way, but I don't think we're supposed to believe that they relied on the tanker stopping right in that spot for the caper to work, and that they weren't prepared for it to be quite a bit further away.
     
  19. Aug 13, 2012 #79 of 211
    john4200

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    You're right. I guess the kid could have just been there for a few seconds before they saw him. But he could have been there a lot longer.
     
  20. Aug 13, 2012 #80 of 211
    Bierboy

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    Perhaps, but it would have been much worse logistically (and more time-consuming) to run 200+ feet, THEN hook up the hoses, etc. But, yes, it made for much better teevee having it close to the trestle.
     

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