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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by johnmoorejohn, Jul 29, 2012.
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Can someone explain the Victor comment at the end?
Not me. I can't tell if Walt was talking about Mike or Jesse. I think Mike, but that would be a terrible strategic error.
I also don't like this tent idea. Much to risky.
Also, that means Aaron Paul's comments about cooking at "a blue collar location, right under our noses" makes no sense, or was a red herring. Or maybe they eventually end up at the car wash later in the season. But using people's houses while being exterminated isn't either "blue collar" or "right under their noses" since it's really a stretch that only Walt dreamed up. I hope they drop this idea soon. I really don't like it.
Bug fumigation is Blue Collar, and right under our noses, is in people's homes?
The other thing that just seemed out of place is that Mike really should have told Walt and Jesse about the "hazard pay" deductions up front (as well as the 20% Mule fee), so there were no surprises later. It's called "setting expectations" and it's part of "Management 101".
Thought the same thing.
Yeah, I would have thought they worked all those details out ahead of time. It seemed odd that it was a surprise.
I did like the episode and was screaming along with Skylar at Marie to Shut Up!!! I think Skylar is going to crack soon.
I turned to my g/f and said "it's about time someone told Marie to shut up!"
The nanny cam warning was a good one, and I'm not really sure how they will be able to work around problems like that from house to house. It seemed like such a risky and work-intensive solution. And would residential power be sufficient for their needs?
It sure seems like there are a lot of people who know about their operation now.
Skylar's breakdown scene would have been much more powerful had it been allowed to run another minute or so -- it seemed like it cut to commercial too abruptly and before the scene was really over.
Nice that Scarface footage made an appearance. Extra nice touch that Walt was watching it with his family. "Everybody dies in the end" is some pretty heavy-handed foreshadowing. I thought the audio segue from the sound of Pacino's machinegun fire into the sound of the money counting was very well done.
I totally agree.. had to watch that twice.
I'm thinking/hoping the fumigation/tent stuff is temporary. I think Walter wants to return to having a super lab again, but that is going to require a LOT of money. Let's say the partnership was all sunshine and smiles, if they cooked 1 batch a week for a couple of months each of them would have near a million dollars. Then they could have a meeting and each could reinvest some money into building a new lab where they could just do their thing. However Walter is becoming greedy with power so I'm not sure how long this partnership will last. I agree about the nanny cams.
That scene was awesome.
This episode did answer the timing question. It's been about 1 year since Walt's cancer diagnosis. That means the opening scene from the first episode this season is about a year away.
I think there's a great tie in to Linkin Park's "One Step Closer" with Skylar's rant. That'd make a great mashup video.
I have to say, I'm as big of a fan of BB as almost anyone, but this season has some elements that I'm not fond of. I don't really know how to explain it, other than to say that it seems like they end up coming up with these grandiose solutions to big problems, and bam, they're implemented and bear fruit almost instantly. It's like there's not enough "real world" time or effort put into them. Maybe it's just that things are being rushed on screen.
My two big examples are the magnet truck and the "new lab" arrangement. Those ideas seemed to go from initial thought to implementation, with few hitches, in very little time. The "new lab" was put together and seemingly overnight, and just like that, BAM!, fifty pounds of blue came out without a bit of trouble.
I do like Mike getting more screen time; his character is absolutely awesome. I briefly thought he'd gone a little soft in S05E01, but I think he's found his balls again now.
It's often been mentioned about Hank suspecting Walt (or lack thereof): My personal belief is that he's thought quite a bit about it, but has just dismissed it as not being possible. He's too close to the "old Walt" to be able to see him any other way.
We also got a big clue as to timelines: We recall that S01 opened with it being Walt's 50th, and in this episode, it was mentioned that Walt has a birthday coming up. That must be his 51st, so we know that about a year has elapsed thus far in the whole series. Considering that the S05E01 flash-forward was on his 52nd birthday, a lot of water seems destined to go under the bridge yet.
Finally, Saul. I haven't seen Bob Odenkirk in any other roles, but he just absolutely kills, kills, kills in that role. If it weren't for Aaron Paul being the main supporting actor, I'd heartily endorse him for some awards. So many great one liners, so many little barbs.
Despite my "too fast, too easy" complaints above, I still love this show and think it's certainly one of the top five dramatic shows on TV in the last, oh, 20 years or so, maybe ever. It's absolutely effin' brilliant.
I think Mike's time on this earth is very limited.
I agree with this 1,000%. Bob Odenkirk is awesome in that role. There is so much great acting on this show.
Do we think Brock recognized Walt? I'm not sure what Walt's motivation was behind the talk he had with Jesse about telling Andrea about what they do. Was he trying to get Jesse to break up with her?
I wondered about that too, however Walter seemed so happy for Jesse I wasn't sure if he was being serious or doing another piece of manipulation. If Walter was manipulating Jesse, that was pretty subtle. Jesse explained that Andrea knew he did something illegal, and that she could probably guess as to what it was, but she never asked and he never told. Knowing that, and Walter's comment about how lies build barriers it seemed too genuine.
However knowing all the lies Walter has told Jesse it'll be interesting to see what happens if/when the truth comes out. It's very interesting to see how the truth has effected Skylar.
There were a lot of loose ends at the end of season 4 and they have been tying them all up in the beginning of season 5. They can't spend a lot of time on each one or the whole season would be wasted. I agree with you that things are moving more quickly than they used to but I can't imagine what it would be like if they took their time tying up the loose ends. They needed to get Walt and Jesse cooking again. Otherwise there would be no conflict and nothing for the characters to do.
This was my thought as well. I also thought they got the instalab up very quick, but then realized that it's probably about the time constraint they have to tell the story with just this season to go.
I'm perfectly content with the InstaLabs as a plot device, provided:
1. It backfires and causes them further complications
2. They move on to a different arrangement soon, coming to their senses just in time. I want to see Walt complete his transition into Scarface; so far this season, he is transitioning into Wile E. Coyote.
I still love the show, though. Fastest hour on tv.
I'm among those unsure as to whether Walt was being sincere to Jesse or manipulating him. Also insure about who Walt is suggesting is "flying too close to the sun" -- did he mean Mike, or was that a warning to Jesse?
When Walt was looking at his copy of Leaves of Grass, that was a callback to Gale and the whole notebook reference to "WW," right? My memory on that is hazy. Have we seen Walt's copy of the book before?
I disagree. I think Mike will be the last man standing -- ASSUMING that Walt doesn't kill him first. I think Walt will make enough enemies that he'll end up being the one hunted at the end. Maybe by Mike with help of a reborn cartel.
If you watch some of the videos on AMC, Vince G says that Walt was once again craftily manipulating Jesse to break up with Andrea.
I'm OK with the mini-lab (and the speed with which it was built). But I hope they find a permanent place for their lab set up and ditch the tent-house bit. (like under the car wash where they could vent the fumes with little or no detection.)
I think it was intended, but did anyone else feel uneasy about Jesse's friends getting in on the action. Not sure why the circle of 'people in the know' has to get so large. But maybe that is a theme this season. Also, who is supposed to clean up the lab? They started the fumigation before they closed up their inner tent.
I also miss the slow pace of earlier seasons, such as how much time and difficulty they spent on getting rid of a single dead body. I guess those days are far behind them.