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Breaking Bad S05E02 "Madrigal" OAD 7.22.12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Hank, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. pdhenry

    pdhenry Now 15% off

    Feb 27, 2005

    But a reasonable parsing of Sepinwall's text says the same thing.
  2. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

    May 12, 2005
    I had the same problem. I couldn't understand what they were saying but luckily my TV turned the captioning on for me automatically.
  3. mike_k

    mike_k Registered User TCF Club

    Sep 20, 2005
    Mason, OH
    It was Season 4 (after Jesse shot Gale) - Hank discovered that the manufacturer of the air cleaner was Madrigal Electromotive. He was told by a sales rep that Gale signed for the shipment. He was also told that there was no payment info on record for the filter. That was when Hank discovered that Madrigal owned Pollos Hermanos.
  4. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

    May 31, 2000
    Boston, MA
    I don't believe this part that Hank got that far. But I can't go back and watch S4, so I'm not going to really challenge it other than to say that Hank got as far as the temporary employee on the phone feeding him some info about the air filtration equipment, but go quickly shuffled off the phone.
  5. mike_k

    mike_k Registered User TCF Club

    Sep 20, 2005
    Mason, OH
    He did - all of this was part of the evidence that he presented to Gomez and his boss to support his theory that Gus was the guy.
  6. robojerk

    robojerk Active Member

    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
  7. nataylor

    nataylor Curiously Strong TCF Club

    Apr 26, 2000
    Houston, TX
    There was a LPH napkin with a number on it that was in Gale's apartment. Hank found out the number was a part number for an industrial air filter. He says the air filter is made by Madrigal. He called their Houston office and talked to a temp who said an air filter like that was shipped to ABQ 6 months ago and was signed for by Gale. On a later phone call, the temp says there's no record of the filter being paid for. He continued to try to communicate with the temp, but she disappeared and all he could talk to was a corporate lawyer and he hit a brick wall. So he investigates Madrigal. They're based in Hanover, Germany and operate many different businesses, including a "tiny little foothold in American fast food, specifically a local chain: Los Pollos Hermanos."

    That's from just rewatching the scene in the season 4 episode Problem Dog.
  8. Aniketos

    Aniketos New Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Are we watching the same show, the entire manipulation of Jesse by Walt is amazing, the scene with the Roomba in particular as previously mentioned.

    I was actively rooting for Gus by the end of season 4. This show truly is on the level of the Wire for me, and if they stick the landing on season 5 it'll probably surpass it.
  9. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Yeah, I didn't understand this part either. Why would Walt hide a fake tube of ricin behind the electrical socket? And even if he really wanted to do that, he wouldn't wrap it in a cigarette, then immediately unwrap it. I didn't even consider that option as a possibility.

    I agree that Aaron's acting was amazing during the scene when he finds the fake ricin. As bad as Walt has been, I felt the lowest that I have ever felt about him while he was "comforting" Jessie.
  10. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    Actually it took me a minute to put the two together too. I was going, why hide salt? then it clicked.
  11. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

    Apr 2, 2001
    I'm finally totally caught up with Breaking Bad. Seasons 1-4 and the first two episodes of season 5. I can now finally participate in a real episode thread!!

    I too wonder if there will be more with this German company "Madrigal". Mr. Schuler was knew something. Maybe was in on it. I doubt he was alone. I hope this isn't the end of that story line.

    When the woman showed up in the coffee shop and Mike started to talk to her, I wondered if I was supposed to have remembered her. Glad to know that was her introduction. But I totally missed her sitting with the Madrigal execs when they were meeting with the DEA. Maybe if she was wearing giant sunglasses.

    One thing I don't get is why Walter poisoned the little kid. Was that a ploy to draw out Gus to Jesse?
  12. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

    Jan 17, 2002
    On that ComicCon panel they say that Walt's operation goes worldwide, so we can gues that Madrigal stays in the dope business.


    The lady was in Madrigal's meeting with the DEA. Above, she's the US. representative.

    Walt needed Jesse on his side and against Gus to save his own bacon. Gus would have killed Walt very soon.
  13. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

    May 31, 2000
    Boston, MA
    I went back and re-watched this episode -- of course she's at the table, and there's one quick scene where she leans forward, but she's otherwise non-memorable. If they had her say two words at the meeting, I would have remember her in the subsequent scenes.
  14. Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    Whether or not a hand job would have been "rapey" reminds me of the first season of 24.

    IIRC, one of the captors is going to rape the daughter and the mom offers herself up instead, promises not to fight. That scene gave me chills at the time and still does. It might not meet the dictionary definition of rape but it ABSOLUTELY is.

    Like many others here I caught up on BB over the last few months and have recently read the back threads. One thing I haven't seen addressed is when Walt rapes Skylar in the first season. Not in the pilot when he takes her from behind, by surprise, but later on. She has a facial mask on and he shoves her face into the fridge. She's telling him to stop and he doesn't listen, they're interrupted by Walt Jr. coming home. I may not have all the details 100%, but again, it was a chilling scene and the one that permanently turned me against Walt.

    As for the new female character, I noticed her right away in the board meeting scene. I don't know what it was, if the camera lingered on her or if she was the only woman, but she jumped out at me.
  15. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    Bryan Cranston actually directed that episode, and talked about that particular scene in a recent interview with Alan Sepinwall.

    It's an excellent interview (and there's a companion interview with Aaron Paul as well). I highly recommend that fans of this show read both interviews.
  16. Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    Thanks for that.

    Did it come up here before and I missed it? I was shocked that there was no discussion of a character turn that intense.
  17. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    The Sepinwall interviews took place relatively recently (a few weeks back, when they were doing press in prep for the season premiere), and I think they were posted here already at least once.
  18. Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

    Dec 6, 2001
    not the interview, the scene.

    In my world a guy raping his wife is a Big Deal.
  19. DreadPirateRob

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    Ah, gotcha.

    No idea - I just watched the entire series in about a 6 week span, so I missed all of the episode threads until the first 3 of this season.
  20. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    Since I'm a newcomer as well, that scene is fresh in my mind. Let me first remind you that I was on the forefront of those who said the HJ or not scene was absolutely a rape (uh oh, here it comes!).

    I did not see the fridge scene as a rape. He started out nice and she was receptive. It was a callback (I keep using that word!) to the first scene in the pilot where he was forceful and she responded positively. He was letting out some aggression and thought being rough was part of the excitement for both of them. I saw it more as "banging the head against the headboard" situation just by virtue of the position and the force.

    He lost control. I think he was stopping before the kid came home. But she was receptive and into it until it became violent/too aggressive. I chalked that one up more to just a husband & wife not in tune than with the rapeyness of the last scene.

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