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Breaking Bad S05E02 "Madrigal" OAD 7.22.12

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Hank, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. Jul 23, 2012 #41 of 144
    mike_k

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    I agree. I was afraid for a second that Jesse somehow realized that the cigarette was not his original one (maybe he marked it) and he realized that Walt planted it and thus must have poisoned the kid and lied about it all.
     
  2. Jul 23, 2012 #42 of 144
    JLucPicard

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    I'm going to have to watch this ep again when I'm not drowsy because I couldn't figure how that woman fit into this at all.

    And was it just me, or when the guy (I think it was Hank's boss) was talking about Gus doing all he was doing and nobody noticing what was right in front of them, it sure looked like Hank was replacing "Gus" with "Walt" in that scenario and starting to look at things differently.
     
  3. Jul 23, 2012 #43 of 144
    DevdogAZ

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    She works for Madrigal and she is the one that provided Gus with some of the chemicals he needed. She's afraid that with the DEA closing in, and her boss providing full cooperation, it's only a matter of time before they find out she is involved. So she decided to eliminate all possible ties. First, she tried to get Mike to do it, and then when he wouldn't, she hired someone else. And there's no doubt that when Mike or Chris were finished with the list, she would have hired someone else to take them out, thus eliminating everyone from the list.

    Unfortunately, she didn't count on a) the DEA being able to trace the money trail so quickly, and b) Mike being such a badass.

    Yes, the camera zoomed in on Hank and we're supposed to think that Hank is starting to realize that Heisenberg could be anyone, even people close to him. It's only a matter of time before Hank figures it out. I think we all knew that's where things were headed.
     
  4. Jul 23, 2012 #44 of 144
    nataylor

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    I think she's the head of Madrigal's US operation, based in Houston.

    Oh yeah, Hank's gears are turning.
     
  5. Jul 23, 2012 #45 of 144
    robojerk

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    Walter had the original ricin laced cigarette in the ziplock bag in the beginning. If it was marked Walter (and is viewers) would have seen it. I didn't see any markings. I havent played with a rumba, but if it works like any other vacuum, wouldn't it had destroyed the cigarette when if it had gotten picked up? I'm assuming Walter just put it in the waste container.

    I wondered that too. Hank has that one moment when a drunk Walter said something about Heisenberg not being Gale. Also when Hank shot Tuco, he was searching for Walter. There's some breadcrumbs for Hank to follow, but does he want to see them?
     
  6. Jul 23, 2012 #46 of 144
    DevdogAZ

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    Walt played that off really well. He spent the whole day turning the place upside down with Jesse, acting like he was truly helping to find the cigarette. And then at the end of the day, just in passing, he says, "What the hell is that thing?" as if he has no idea what it is. The way he did that it gave Jesse no way to question whether Walt planted it there.
     
  7. Jul 23, 2012 #47 of 144
    Hank

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    Again, from next week's previews:

    Marie seems like she's the one to put all the pieces together and starts questioning Walt. Maybe she'll figure it out, but keeps it from Hank, or even throws Hank off the Walt trail.
     
  8. Jul 23, 2012 #48 of 144
    DeDondeEs

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    I was confused about that at first too, but I eventually figured out that was her. That's funny how Walter didn't have to do the whole magnet thing to the computer bc it was encrypted, but him doing that brought Mike back into the mix bc everyone lost their money due to the broken picture frame.

    When that Chow guy was coming out of the police questioning and ligthing the cigarette in the police station lobby, and Mike told him he couldn't smoke in there, what was the point of that? To show that Chow was all confused and bewildered from the questioning and to give Mike doubt?

    Did anyone else have really bad audio for the first few minutes of the show? That was really annoying.
     
  9. Jul 23, 2012 #49 of 144
    modnar

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    I wasn't totally clear on what all was happening in the final scene. Walt got in bed, talked to Skylar for a bit, then did something else (removed more clothing, maybe). Then, he turned back to Skylar. It made me think that the writers are implying he was forcing himself upon Skylar - a definite way to make us dislike him.

    It was just a super creepy scene.
     
  10. Jul 23, 2012 #50 of 144
    MikeMar

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    Yeah audio was messed up for me too to start
     
  11. Jul 23, 2012 #51 of 144
    robojerk

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    My opinion.
    Walter knows she is having problems coming to terms with all the horrible things they have done, and he knows she afraid of him. At one point he too felt a lot of guilt, but now he's okay with it. I also think that having her under his thumb turned him on, but I don't think he forced himself on her.
     
  12. Jul 23, 2012 #52 of 144
    modnar

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    That makes sense.
     
  13. Jul 23, 2012 #53 of 144
    MikeAndrews

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    There's no (OK, little) reason that Los Pollos Hermanos couldn't keep operating. With 14 locations, Gus had to have store managers that could carry on. There's just that little issue about the breading plant having handled the blue miracle ice.
     
  14. Jul 23, 2012 #54 of 144
    MikeAndrews

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    Except that Walt was modeling his phony cig while looking at the original. He would have copied any marks.
     
  15. Jul 23, 2012 #55 of 144
    DevdogAZ

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    I think it served two purposes: 1) it showed that he was completely shell shocked from the questioning, and 2) it showed that he was still subject to Mike's authority.

    I didn't get that from the scene at all, but I guess maybe I should watch again.
     
  16. Jul 23, 2012 #56 of 144
    modnar

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    It was the extra movement....as if he was removing more clothing or something that worried me that was what they were trying to insinuate.

    But, maybe I just read too much into it.
     
  17. Jul 23, 2012 #57 of 144
    betts4

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    It was actually the scene with the Roomba and Jesse's reactions (yes, awesome) that marked the turning point for me to stop rooting for Walt. Oh I get that he is "$40,000" in debt and needs money, but he is past the point of no return.
     
  18. Jul 23, 2012 #58 of 144
    robojerk

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    I think since his $40,000 debt to Jesse helped make it so Jesse doesn't need to run, Jesse would let him off. If all Walter wanted to do was cook, then I think getting back in the game would be okay, however Walter now has an ego and he wants recognition (and power) for all that he's done.
     
  19. Jul 23, 2012 #59 of 144
    pdhenry

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    The first stage of a Roomba is a sweeper that sweeps large debris into a large receptacle on the top of the removable waste bin. The second stage is a vacuum that goes to a second smaller receptacle. Jesse emptied the debris receptacle. It's reasonable for a cigarette to have been swept into there without damage. But Walt probably just stuck it in the receptacle.
     
  20. Jul 23, 2012 #60 of 144
    mooseAndSquirrel

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    Yep. OMFG.

    I loved that scene. The Germans, the sauces, the red toilet on auto flush.

    Wow, what a PITA these threads are becoming.

    I knew Walt wouldn't throw away the Ricin. I wonder how and when that's going to come back.
     

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