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Breaking Bad 9/1/13 "Rabid Dog"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Jstkiddn

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

    Oct 15, 2003
    I hadn't caught that. Wow!
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    And we all know that Walt is in the "empire business." So my guess is that Jesse wants to do something to sabotage Walt's empire.

    The next episode is called To'hajiilee, which, if you listen to the podcast, you know it is the name of the place where
    Walt buried the money. So my guess is somehow Jesse makes a play to go after Walt where it will really hurt.
  3. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW

    May 31, 2000
    Boston, MA
    I'm not wrong in thinking what I think, despite your extreme pendantics.
  4. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    I agree.

    Really live does not necessarily mean home.

    "where you really live" I would take as a threat to his family but maybe not the physical house.

    BUT it could also be that "where you really live" means Heisenberg and the reputation and EMPIRE that he has built. That is where Walt is living now. That would be something that would really hurt him.
  5. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

    Oct 31, 2009
    Is that what you REALLY think? :rolleyes:
  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    OK....just because "someone made me do it" that makes him an OK guy? Wow...
  7. brianric

    brianric Active Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Pennsville, NJ
    It's the Flip Wilson defense. :D
  8. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    But that's nothing compared to the excuses Walt's defenders use..."It's OK to cheat and steal and run a drug empire and murder people, as long as you're just trying to help your family." :D
  9. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    Just to derail for a moment -
    I watched the episode that shows Walt and Skylar looking at the house when they first bought it. Skylar pregnant with Walt Jr and Walt with hair. I had major flashback to a similar scene from Malcolm in the Middle when Hal and Lois were looking at their new house. It was kind of freaky to remember both scenes. Even funnier that in MiM they end up with 5 boys and in BB Walt is talking about how the house may not be big enough and should have 5 bedrooms.
  10. MikeAndrews

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

    Jan 17, 2002
    You know who else likes Hello Kitty?

  11. Zevida

    Zevida witless and unarmed

    Nov 8, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    No, but it does make him the most morally superior of almost everyone on the show. He's a simple minded drug addict who was manipulated into doing really bad things.And unlike virtually any other character, Jesse feels immense guilt over what he's been a part of. Between character like Gus, Mike, Walt, Saul and Jesse, yeah, Jesse gets my sympathy. He still deserves to go to jail for a long time, but since Breaking Bad isn't a courtroom or a prison drama, the showdown isn't going to be who gets the longest prison sentence, so yeah, I root for Jesse.
  12. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    This. You got to the thread before me so I'll just defer mostly to your response.

    Does Jesse being manipulated into doing bad things make his actions okay? Of course not. I never said that.
  13. BitbyBlit

    BitbyBlit .

    Aug 25, 2001
    Yes. But the point is that he was already willing to kill without any manipulation from Walt. And even when it came to Gale, it was only because both him and Walt were desperate. There was no manipulation on Walt's part to trick Jesse into turning on Gale. Walt truly believed that it was the only way to save both of them from Gus, and he let Jesse know his true feelings.

    Walt didn't have any grand scheme to get Gale out of the picture, and manipulate Jesse into killing for him. In fact, he originally only wanted Jesse to find Gale for him. The original plan was for Walt to deal with Gale. It was only when Mike and box cutter guy had him cornered that he asked Jesse to do the deed.
  14. Anubys

    Anubys KMT Soccer Playa

    Jul 16, 2004
    Anyone notice Hank misusing the line from the movie "Silverado"?

    "I don't wanna kill you, and you don't wanna be dead". Hank used a variation of that, would have been great if used it exactly.
  15. JoeyJoJo

    JoeyJoJo Damaged Goods

    Sep 29, 2003
    Southern NH.
    Even worse? Take the credit away from him. Walt's ego would have a conniption if Jessie took credit for being Heisenberg.

    Why do so many people think Jessie is simple-minded? Walt's complaint about him when he was in Chemistry class was that he didn't apply himself, not that he was stupid. He's an addict, and that clouds his decision making sometimes, but he isn't stupid.
  16. modnar

    modnar New Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Arkansas, USA
    Totally agree on this. It was just a way for us to sync up the two views of the storyline.
  17. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    Oh my! I think his head would explode!

    I agree.
  18. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Quad Sillies
    This is what you said...
    I disagree (primarily because I disagree with your definition of a bad person). I think Jesse is a bad person, too....for many of the reasons you listed above that statement in that post.

    I guess we'll agree to disagree on this...:rolleyes:
  19. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003

    I think you nailed it right there. Destroy his reputation as the cancer survivor former high school chemistry teacher car wash entrepreneur decent family man and neighborhood good citizen. Take off his mask to reveal the monster to everybody, not just the DEA. Bring his criminal past to roost at his home. Air his dirty laundry ... okay, I think I've used up more than my allotted quota of metaphors.
  20. danterner

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    Ha! I love that. It's so elegant - he does really "hit Walt where he lives" (or whatever the line was) - a terrible blow to his Ego. Plus, it would help Jesse feel absolved of his guilt, maybe, by accepting more than his fair share of the blame.

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