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Breaking Bad 9/1/13 "Rabid Dog"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. Sep 2, 2013 #81 of 253
    MikeAndrews

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    You made me remember that the other DEA office paid Lydia and Madrigal a visit when they put the GPS trackers on the barrels. They have some experience with Lydia.
     
  2. Sep 2, 2013 #82 of 253
    john4200

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    Right. I was going to respond similarly, but you already explained it well.

    Also, someone said that Walt betrayed Jesse, but actually, the two of them had planned on killing Gus. But then Jesse became friends with Mike and then Gus (two people who were planning to kill Jesse and Walt just a few months ago, and were still planning on killing Walt even as Jesse buddied up to them). That was Jesse betraying Walt, big time. Even after Walt had saved Jesse's life from Gus earlier.

    So, there have been several betrayals, on both sides, but I think that Walt comes out slightly the better person in the betrayer game (or perhaps I should say, not quite as bad as Jesse in betrayals), since Walt saved Jesse and was betrayed first by Jesse before he began manipulating and betraying Jesse. And now, at the end, Walt has still tried to protect Jesse (from people who want Jesse dead), while Jesse has been busy betraying Walt to Hank.
     
  3. Sep 2, 2013 #83 of 253
    GoPackGo

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    At the beginning of the episode, when Jesse had seemingly vanished from the White home, I was half expecting Walt to discover a frayed lamp cord plugged into a Christmas light timer, the same way that Walt and Jesse had set the super lab to explode back in Season 4.
     
  4. Sep 2, 2013 #84 of 253
    Ereth

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    I thought that at first but it's too obvious and straight forward. No, he's going after the one thing Walt REALLY cares about. His legacy.

    Walt has been shown to have too much ego for his own good. The scene with the notebook of instructions, for instance, where Walt had to go on and on about how it was clearly derivative. He doesn't just want to make the best meth, he wanted people to know how much better he was than they were.

    The easiest first step is to out him as Heisenberg. Let it be known that the great, powerful, scary Heisenberg, is a high school teacher. Destroy his image.

    The second would be to make a better product.

    I don't know that Jesse could do the latter, and even if he could, I doubt Hank would let him, but the former? To destroy the image Walt has built up? That would definitely be taking Walt down where he "really lives". And would lead to the house we saw in the half-season opening, with Heisenberg spray painted on the wall.

    Reveal the man behind the curtain and you destroy his power.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2013 #85 of 253
    DevdogAZ

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    Also, don't forget that the reason they killed Gale was to protect themselves. If Gale could make Blue Sky as well as Walt, then Gus didn't need Walt or Jesse. So Jesse was killing Gale as much for his own protection as it was because of anything Walt made him do.

    Disagree. Jesse told Walt he was going after his family. That crossed a line with Walt. Up until then, Walt wanted Jesse to get away cleanly. But if Jesse is going to threaten Walt's family, Walt will not hesitate to take Jesse down.

    Also, Todd and Uncle Jack are working directly with Lydia. As far as Walt knows, they're loyal to each other. So if he wants to take out Lydia, I don't think Todd and Uncle Jack would be the ones he would call.
     
  6. Sep 2, 2013 #86 of 253
    Hank

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    No, Jesse said he was going to get Walt "at home".. whatever that meant. Could be his family, but that's too easy for the writers. It has to mean something else. Also, I think if Jesse was going after Walt's family, than Walt has the hubris to face Jesse himself, and not chicken out by calling in Todd's uncle.


    Well, part that is true.
     
  7. Sep 2, 2013 #87 of 253
    Jstkiddn

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    In addition to the pancakes, there was also cereal on the table. Fruit Loops, IIRC.
     
  8. Sep 2, 2013 #88 of 253
    dswallow

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    I was surprised they didn't do anything with Jesse hearing Hank talk about how much Walt had been protecting him, treating him as family and a partner. That seemed to be a moment where Hank was giving Jesse numerous reasons to shut up and deny everything Hank believes about Walt.
     
  9. Sep 2, 2013 #89 of 253
    Beryl

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    Wasn't Jesse planning on killing the men associated with an innocent kid being killed in the hood? I don't remember exactly how that went down but as I recall, it was tied to an innocent being killed -- not a "Walter-type" murder (a murder to protect himself).
     
  10. Sep 2, 2013 #90 of 253
    Jstkiddn

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

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    The dealers got the kid to kill for them. Then they killed the kid. It was that one girls little brother.
     
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    Test

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    MikeAndrews

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    No. :D
     
  13. Sep 2, 2013 #93 of 253
    danterner

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    So did anyone else notice that when Jesse is looking at Hank and Marie's bookshelf, one of the books on the shelf is "Deadwood"? (Anna Gunn was in the cast. Just coincidence, or a nice little prop Easter egg?)
     
  14. Sep 2, 2013 #94 of 253
    Rob Helmerichs

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    It wasn't a book, it was the DVD set...
     
  15. Sep 2, 2013 #95 of 253
    getbak

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    They also had some Stephen King novels, but I don't think Under the Dome was one of them.
     
  16. Sep 2, 2013 #96 of 253
    john4200

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    Wrong. How could you get that so wrong? :rolleyes:

    Jesse said, "...burning down your house was nothing. Next time I'm going to get you where you REALLY live."
     
  17. Sep 2, 2013 #97 of 253
    Test

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    Duh...everyone knows you LIVE in a HOME...:D
     
  18. Sep 2, 2013 #98 of 253
    Regina

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    I loved how Jesse called Mr White "Walter White" for the first time ever this ep!

    YAY JESSE!!!
     
  19. Sep 2, 2013 #99 of 253
    Hank

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    Close enough, jeeze. "really live"=="at home". :rolleyes:

    My point was actually is was *not* necessarily his actual house or "your family" but something much more metaphorical.
     
  20. Sep 2, 2013 #100 of 253
    john4200

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    Wrong again. He said "REALLY live". And everyone knows "REALLY live" does NOT equal "at home". :rolleyes:
     

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