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Breaking Bad 08/25/13 "Confessions"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Aug 26, 2013 #81 of 360
    Peter000

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    So Jesse realized that Walt manipulated the whole situation and was the one who poisoned Brock.
     
  2. Aug 26, 2013 #82 of 360
    Hank

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    It's really convoluted (and explained above), but Walt used the missing ricin to help convince Jesse that it was Gus who poisoned the kid and not Walt.
     
  3. Aug 26, 2013 #83 of 360
    MonsterJoe

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    No it doesn't explain anything (well)...because if the Dr. said that it wasn't Ricin that poisoned Brock, then there is no reason for Jesse to connect the missing Ricin to anything...especially since he later "finds" it.

    If we were hanging out and you had a one dollar bill...and the next day I bought a candy bar, then you noticed you were missing your dollar bill - you might suspect I took your dollar bill. Yes?

    If you then spoke with the cashier who sold me the candy bar and they told you that I paid with a five dollar bill - and you later FOUND your one dollar bill under your bed...you would then have absolutely no reason to connect me to the missing one dollar bill.
     
  4. Aug 26, 2013 #84 of 360
    VegasVic

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    I agree, the whole "Jesse figures it all out" stuff was over the top. He went from Zombie to rational way too quick. But the rest of the episode was spot on. And I like how they went a long time without a break during the crucial mid episode scenes. (I watch on a delay so I can FF but still nice to not break it up)
     
  5. Aug 26, 2013 #85 of 360
    jsmeeker

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    It's still bugging me because of the way he searched for it. He was DESPERATE to find it. To actually FIND it. It's like he was EXPECTING to find it. Like he STILL had one on him all this time. We had seen him do this frantic search before. But now I was reminded that once Walt planted one in the Roomba, Jesse stopped carrying on him. And yet, he sure as acted like it still should have ben there.

    I'm OK with him figuring it out. But now I am thinking just maybe there could have been a better way to do it. Maybe not such a frantic search for. Look for weed. Realize it's gone. <Sigh>. Grab the cigarettes. Open box. Then realize it then.
     
  6. Aug 26, 2013 #86 of 360
    dimented

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    Unless you were a known thief. Then I might I still have suspicions.


    I think that is the point here. Jesse has seen some pretty elaborate plans by Walt to make people think he didn't do something. I think in Jessie's mind, putting the pieces together that he stole the ricin cigarette was enough for him to think Walt was going to poison Brock with the ricin, realized Jessie would find out, poisoned him with something else and used it all as a cover up.
     
  7. Aug 26, 2013 #87 of 360
    Carlucci

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    It's not about the Ricin, it's confirmation of one of Walt's lies . Jessie now has incontrovertible proof that Walt is able to lie convincingly about anything. Walt at first tried to blame Gus for the missing ricin, which Jesse now knows was a complete lie, confirmed by Saul. Walt told that lie while under the duress of Jesse's gun pointing straight between his eyes, so he's exceptionally good at it.

    Now, Jesse is free to assume that everything else Walt has every told him is also a lie, so he's raging.
     
  8. Aug 26, 2013 #88 of 360
    Hank

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    ^^^^ yes, that ^^^^^

    And it also confirms (in Jesse's mind) that Walt lied about Mike.

    Just imagine if Jesse finds out about Jane (not that he needs any more proof about Mr. White).
     
  9. Aug 26, 2013 #89 of 360
    Beryl

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    This. He always suspected WW was behind his troubles and put it all together. That is how the mind works sometimes. It ties into his entire day including the manipulation in the desert.

    That hug reminded me of some Godfather scene. I fully expected WW to kill him during that hug but them realized it would not have been a smart move. WW is vile but not stupid.
     

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  10. Aug 26, 2013 #90 of 360
    dswallow

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    Umm, the country is full of addicts now. Haven't you noticed? "Addicts" may be too strong. "Users" is probably better.
     
  11. Aug 26, 2013 #91 of 360
    SugarBowl

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    Walt gave a sharp look to Skylar when she said something to Hank about "it's all in the past"
     
  12. Aug 26, 2013 #92 of 360
    jamesl

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    yes, i agree
     
  13. Aug 26, 2013 #93 of 360
    MonsterJoe

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    Nope - it was only a matter of hours between when we think huell lifted it, and when Jesse got the call about Brock in the hospital.. Ricin takes a few days to have effect.

    I don't really care - I'll suspend disbelief for the sake of enjoyment...but as long as it was brought up, it was pretty sloppy storytelling for such a good show.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2013 #94 of 360
    dswallow

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    There's a huge profit margin; that's what makes it attractive to criminals. How many criminals sell snack chips? There's not a huge profit to be made there. And there is a huge, competitive, marketplace.

    Prices drop drastically. Quality would improve. It would be far less necessary for "addicts" to be robbing people on the street or burglarizing homes to pay for that habit. Police could focus on violent crimes. We wouldn't have prisons filled with people whose only crime was using an "illegal" drug, or possessing some amount of it for their own or their friends use. Billions of dollars could go towards improving and replacing crumbling infrastructure instead of wasted on fruitless labor that time and again is proven not to help one bit.

    Take a legal drug: tobacco. When did criminals become interested in selling cigarettes? When it started to get taxed more than other products. When did liquor become a criminal empire? When government attempted to make it illegal.
     
  15. Aug 26, 2013 #95 of 360
    dswallow

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    You're confusing the drugs Walt makes to the chemotherapy drugs that are legal.
     
  16. Aug 26, 2013 #96 of 360
    JETarpon

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    We don't spend billions of dollars regulating alcohol, and we don't still have illegal speakeasies floating around.
     
  17. Aug 26, 2013 #97 of 360
    JETarpon

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    Users aren't addicts. What's wrong with users?
     
  18. Aug 26, 2013 #98 of 360
    jsmeeker

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    There are many many many regulations for alcohol. Federal. State. Local. It's a huge mishmash of a mess.
     
  19. Aug 26, 2013 #99 of 360
    sgsmith

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    I'm kinda surprised that no one has commented on the tank full of methylene being towed back to New Mexico.
     
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    Yeah, how obvious was that....
     

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