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Breaking Bad 08/25/13 "Confessions"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Aug 26, 2013 #61 of 360
    Peter000

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    I'll note that you didn't answer my question.

    Until someone convinces me legalizing drugs will actually do the fantastical things supporters purport, and not lead to a country full of addicts, I'll stick with the status quo.
     
  2. Aug 26, 2013 #62 of 360
    john4200

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    That is because it is the wrong question. Why should the government spend our money and tell us (at gunpoint) what we can and can't put in our bodies without irrefutable evidence that our money is being well spent?
     
  3. Aug 26, 2013 #63 of 360
    JETarpon

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    JETarpon

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    Because it's OK that the status quo costs billions of taxpayer dollars and tramples civil liberties?
     
  5. Aug 26, 2013 #65 of 360
    Beryl

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    Jesse is guilty of many things but your last sentence is exactly why many of us see Jesse as the antithesis of WW. Jesse quit when they were willing to hang on to Todd - a child murderer. Jesse isn't comfortable with killing people unless there is a direct threat to his life -- not a loosely perceived threat.

    WW will sacrifice anyone to achieve his goals -- let a drug addict die, poison kids, murder a competitive chemist, and buddy up with a guy who shot a kid down like a dog. I'm rooting to see WW removed from the earth ( or sent on "a trip to Belize" ).
     
  6. Aug 26, 2013 #66 of 360
    Peter000

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    Still didn't answer the question. And it's not a "wrong" question. It's no more "wrong" than yours. Prove to me that legalizing drugs would solve the problem.

    Why would legalizing drugs be any different? Billions of dollars will still be spent trying to regulate the drugs, and there would STILL be illegal street drugs floating around. We'd have twice the problems.

    Anyway, this isn't the thread to argue about this. I'm not going to continue with a pointless endeavor.
     
  7. Aug 26, 2013 #67 of 360
    Goober96

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    I, too, am a little confused about the ricin. I came here to get answers and the summary that was posted helped but I still am not clear on why or how Jesse made the leap from the ricin being lifted from his pocket to Brock's poisoning since the kid wasn't poisoned with ricin (which is what got him off the hook with the police at the time).
     
  8. Aug 26, 2013 #68 of 360
    fmowry

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    Didn't like this episode. The confession thing was simply a vehicle that we've seen coming from a mile away. Make Hank realize that his rehab was paid for with meth money therefore he can't go to the DEA with what he knows.

    And the Jesse leap with the ricin? He's not that bright and certainly not in a state of mind to be putting together the pieces of that puzzle.
     
  9. Aug 26, 2013 #69 of 360
    NJ_HB

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    After the kid got poisoned, Jessie met up with Walt and it was Walt who suggested that Jessie had the doctors check for the ricin since it would not easliy be seen in the tox screens. Jessie later pulls a gun on Walt - blaming Walt for making the kid sick and even said Huey took it off him during his visit to Saul. Walt deflects this and blames Gus saying Gus had it taken from Jessie's locker at work. After the kid recovers from a NON ricin poison - Jessie is so messed in the head he thinks he lost the ricin and now someone else may find it and die. Walt tries to help his state of mind by making the 'salty' ricin tube and eventually plants it in the roomba during his search with Jessie at Jessie's house. One of them takes it to be flushed.... Whew......
     
  10. Aug 26, 2013 #70 of 360
    Goober96

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    Yeah I got all that but still doesn't tell me why Jessie thinks Walt had anything to do with the poisoning since the ricin wasn't used.
     
  11. Aug 26, 2013 #71 of 360
    NJ_HB

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    One more try..The ricin was initially intended for Gus; Gus had taken Jessie under his wing, even though he didn't like him. Walt was not sure where that relationship was going and knew he had to drive a wedge between Gus and Jessie. (Soon Gus would have no use for Walt.) The wedge was to make Gus seemed like he had hurt yet another kid, (Jessie loves kids) thus the ricin/poison story. After the kid recovers Jessie thinks it was Walt all along and pulls a gun on him (Walt is in hiding at this point.) Walt even says something along the lines of, I should have know it was going to be you, but manages to convince Jessie it was Gus. (I may have the timeline screwed up a little here.)

    This most recent scene where Jessie realizes that he once again had something lifted made him realized that it was Walt all along who poisoned Brock. It was Walt and he even knew it then.
     
  12. Aug 26, 2013 #72 of 360
    Bierboy

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    betts4

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    I was very confused about this also. The only thing I could think of was that he found the pack of cigarettes that he and Walt hid the one ricin cigarette in and something clicked in his head and he decided to go back and kill Walt for all the lies.

    I actually thought that maybe Walt had planted the cigarette pack on Jesse when he gave him that hug in the desert.

    As for the hug, it was nice on Walt's part but very staged and Jesse didn't really hug back. I almost got the feel of Christ/Judas vibe. Walt knowing that Jesse will have to try and betray him.
     
  14. Aug 26, 2013 #74 of 360
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Yeah, I didn't even think it was nice. Walt's not so far gone that he'd just have Jesse whacked, but I don't think he's too far from being that far gone. The hug was all about manipulation, and not at all about personal feelings (let's face it, even at his best Walt isn't a hugging kind of guy to begin with).
     
  15. Aug 26, 2013 #75 of 360
    VegasVic

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    I have no doubt Walt would have killed Jesse had he not agreed to leave town.
     
  16. Aug 26, 2013 #76 of 360
    Carlucci

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    Marie was, understandably, cold-hearted when she told Walt to just kill himself. And that was even before she saw Walt's "confession" video.

    Makes you wonder if the kleptomania she exhibited in the first few episodes was meant to lay a foundation of an "emotion trumps reason" brand of lawlessness in her.

    Hmm, what's the over/under on Marie being the one to kill Walt?
     
  17. Aug 26, 2013 #77 of 360
    MonsterJoe

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    Right. (silly argument)

    You root for Walt because the **** he does is the reason you watch the show.

    I don't think the hug was disingenuous - at least not completely. As someone said earlier - a lot of the bad stuff that Walt has done, was done to save or protect Jesse.

    I also don't understand the Ricin thing. Jesse knows that it was not Ricin that poisoned Brock - so what is there to piece together....though, as we saw this week, they do a pretty good job of answering questions that stymie us from the week before.
     
  18. Aug 26, 2013 #78 of 360
    Hank

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    It's just the brand Jesse smokes (i.e. not planted), but in combination with *just* having the pot lifted from him by Huel, and the extreme perseverating in the previous season about *where* the missing ricin cigarette went, he finally figured out that it was Saul/Huel who lifted it, and the only person who could have told them to do it was Walt.
     
  19. Aug 26, 2013 #79 of 360
    MonsterJoe

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    but they "found" the Ricin in the Roomba and Ricin did not poison Brock - so....???
     
  20. Aug 26, 2013 #80 of 360
    Marco

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    Not sure I believe the "fantastical" claims either.

    But -- did the repeal of Prohibition lead to a country full of alcoholics?

    (Did Prohibition actually reduce alcohol abuse?)
     

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