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Bit torrent Question.. I need someone to walk me through like I am 5

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by scubagal, Jan 8, 2006.

  1. Jan 17, 2006 #121 of 1232
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    I usually keep my max upload at around 30 while I'm still receiving files, then I make it unlimited after they are finished and then leave them seeding until I've uploaded at least twice as much as I received.
     
  2. Jan 17, 2006 #122 of 1232
    Jonathan_S

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    In general, bit torrent clients will devote more of their available bandwidth to the clients that are sending them data the fastest. So in a reasonably large swarm, you will get better download speeds (on average) when you upload faster. (For very small swarms it will matter much less, because you will be limited to the speed of the one or two clients that have the pieces you need).

    However, I've noticed (as have others) that if you set the upload limit to unlimited you actually have (somewhat) lower average upload speed that if you set a limit at ~80% of your theoretical max upload speed.

    In my case, my max upload is 2 megabits/s (256 Kbytes/s). I set the upload limit on Azurius to 200 Kbytes/s or about 78% of the max. This gave me the best performance.
    Much higher than that, and I would see a jagged graph for upload speed, instead of a nice flat line. It would attempt to meet the higher cap, then for whatever reason wouldn't be able to sustain it and the upload speed would drop, then surge again. On average that was slower that just capping it at 200 Kb/s.

    (Also, when in that surge and ebb mode bittorrent would noticeably impact web browsing by increasing latency of page load enough to be annoying.)
     
  3. Jan 17, 2006 #123 of 1232
    chuckwny

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    I am trying out the Azureus client but I am only seeing download speeds around 30kB. Is there a setting I need to adjust or something (I have DSL).
     
  4. Jan 18, 2006 #124 of 1232
    mtnagel

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    I had tried BT several times in the past, but every time I would get horrible speeds. I assume it's because I couldn't figure out my network settings. Then I tried utorrent as someone here recommended and when it go through the setup, it linked to a couple web sites that walked me through the network settings and now it works fine for me (thank you everyone that's posted).
     
  5. Jan 18, 2006 #125 of 1232
    jkindley

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    When I download tv shows with > 200 seed's I usually get between 20 - 60 kbs speeds sometimes i get speeds as fast as 150 kbs ( pretty much maxing out my dsl).
    The strange thing is that I have been downloading the Howard Stern show which always comes in at my full download rate ( 150~170 kbps). The amount of seeds for these shows is about the same as for the TV stuff that I get.
     
  6. Jan 18, 2006 #126 of 1232
    Mabes

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    200, wow. I've been setting mine at 35, which I read somewhere was about right for my speed, and getting about 50KBs down on a good torrent. But my speed is the same as yours, I'm going to try 200 on the next one.
     
  7. Jan 18, 2006 #127 of 1232
    bigrig

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    I use a hacked xbox over a wireless network to view files on the TV. I'm tempted to get the Linkplayer2 for HD files, but I don't think the wireless will be able to handle the bandwidth. :(

    I was downloading a show the other night that had a ton of seeds, and I thought the speed should be better. I went into the Azureus transfer settings and saw that it had 80 connections max for individual torrents. I set it to unlimited and my speed rocketed up!

    Matt
     
  8. Jan 18, 2006 #128 of 1232
    malutchen

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    I got BitComet (which i guess is very similiar) I feel ya I am clueless and your thread is just making me more confused so if you learn anything please include me I would apprecaite it!
     
  9. Jan 18, 2006 #129 of 1232
    Mabes

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    Is it also true that if you are uploading at a greater rate than you are downloading your settings are off?
     
  10. Jan 18, 2006 #130 of 1232
    SoBelle0

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    Great info!! I got West Wing. Wow, it was really slow... but I got it and converted it for TiVo and am about to watch it. I was just going to burn it - but figured I may as well test out the Videora while I was at it. ;)
    At this speed, I'm not sure just how useful it will be - maybe I can tweak the speeds like some of you have noted - but for a 'gotta have it' situation it worked like a charm.

    Thanks for the thread scuba! and thanks for the info everyone!
     
  11. Jan 19, 2006 #131 of 1232
    DevdogAZ

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    SoBelle, will you be watching on a 4:3 TV? If so, let me know how it works. I'm still having problems converting 16:9 files to be viewed properly on my 4:3 TV. If anyone has any advice, feel free to share.
     
  12. Jan 19, 2006 #132 of 1232
    ddockery

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    Not necessarily. Once again it dpends on who is conected to the torrent, what their settings are, and which pieces of the torrent they each have. The parts you need may be less common, and thus are being shared by less peers.
     
  13. Jan 19, 2006 #133 of 1232
    MickeS

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    devdogaz, I have converted several dozens of 16:9 files to letterboxed 4:3 using the MPEG-2/720x480/2Mbit/16:9/192kbps profile in Videora. Are you absolutely sure that this is the profile you are using (it is not the default profile, so unless you have set it as default profile, it will not use that when you click on "one click encoding")?

    It seems odd it would work so well for me but not for you... also, I'm not sure it makes a difference, but maybe if it still doesn't work, verify that your TiVo is set to 4:3 format... it should be though, otherwise I guess other TV would look odd too.
     
  14. Jan 19, 2006 #134 of 1232
    DevdogAZ

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    Actually, I've read in several other threads and forums today that in order for this to work the TiVo needs to be set on 16:9. Supposedly it won't affect how the normal 4:3 video looks but it will allow the 16:9 stuff to display accurately. I don't know if this is correct since I haven't been home to try it since I read this info.

    However, I've tried every single 16:9 setting on Videora and none of them have worked so I'm willing to try anything. Is it possible that it could be TV-specific, meaning some TVs will display the files while others won't? Could it be that different TiVo models have different capabilities?

    I've downloaded the most current codec from www.divx.com and that doesn't seem to make a difference. Is there another codec that I could get that might have some effect?
     
  15. Jan 19, 2006 #135 of 1232
    malutchen

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    You sooo need to show me how to do that!
     
  16. Jan 19, 2006 #136 of 1232
    SoBelle0

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    I am watching it on a 4:3 TV - and the picture is stretched. It's a bit of a bother... it definitely looked better on the laptop. I didn't change any settings within Videora - and plan to with my next try. I've got two more shows I dld... figured what the heck they can go while I'm sleeping. Ah, brings back days of dling music on dial-up. :) So, let's exchange notes if either of us comes up with a setting that makes it 4:3 size.

    Sure! Hope this helps. I only remember generalities b/c I didn't do it all at the same time.
    • I downloaded uTorrent based on the recs here. I think page 1 or 2 of this thread...
    • Then used mininova.org to find the show I wanted. (Had to Google to get the right episode number and such b/c the descriptions are limited. For example, I wanted Sunday night's West Wing - which, turns out, is from Season 7 Episode 11 - so I found the file named west.wing.s07e11. That still probably isn't foolproof, just so ya know.) Double-clicked it and off it went. Downloading and so on - for a very long time.
    • Then the next night - I dld Videora. I think again page 1 or 2... and ran the recording thru it to convert it to a format TiVo could read.
    • Then moved the new file from the Videora folder into the TiVo Recordings folder and voila! it showed up in my Turtle directory on TiVo. Woo Hoo! :up:
    Good luck!!
     
  17. Jan 19, 2006 #137 of 1232
    DevdogAZ

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    OK, I changed the TV Aspect Ratio on the TiVo to "16:9 Capable" and now the video plays without interlacing problems but it is stretched vertically so everything is tall and skinny. I was able to achieve this same result previously by converting 16:9 files using the 4:3 settings in Videora.

    If anyone has had success converting a 16:9 .avi file and displaying it with the proper aspect ratio (letterboxed) on a 4:3 TV, please let us know how it's done. Thanks.
     
  18. Jan 19, 2006 #138 of 1232
    SoBelle0

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    Okay - I converted the second file using the profile suggested by MickeS - and it worked. I'm now watching it in letterbox. The picture looks great!! :up:

    I'm converting my last one using that profile as well (now set as my default) - just to be sure it wasn't anything about that file that was diff. I'll post again and let you know how it turns out.
     
  19. Jan 19, 2006 #139 of 1232
    cheerdude

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    Thanks for the info... d/l my first torrent now (happens to be the last West Wing episode as well)

    Got a question... searching through mininova; the description of the shows have, seemingly, several abbreviations. For example...

    House - House S02E10 HR HDTV AC3 5.1 XviD-NBS vs.
    House 2x10 (HDTV-FOV)[VTV]

    The first one is almost twice the size of the other (and has more seeds & leechers) - but does that necessarly make it a better file? Especially when you are looking to convert it for TiVo viewing?

    Thanks,

    Jeff
     
  20. Jan 19, 2006 #140 of 1232
    cheerdude

    cheerdude Reed & Juliet's CPA

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    On using the TiVo conversion tool - if you already have a widescreen TV (like I do), should I still use the settings that MickeS suggests or will the default work just as well?
     

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