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Big Brother Season 15 Live Feed and After Dark Discussion (SPOILERS)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Shaunnick, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. Dnamertz

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    No, Amanda has to go so she doesn't stick around and end up winning this game. My only fear this week is that Amanda comes off the block. Even though the other HG's seem pretty adamant about evicting whichever one of those two is still on the block, I fear that if McCrae is the one that stays on the block then Amanda will only have to bully two people into saving McCrae by threatening to make their remaning week hell if McCrea gets voted out. I can see a couple of these HG's (especailly Andy) being afraid of her wrath, and go along with want she says.

    Hopefully McCrae uses the veto on himself and everyone else sticks to their word and evicts Amanda.

    Part of me really wanted Andy to win the veto to see his turmoil about whether to use it or not.
     
  2. tigercat74

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    Who goes up as the replacement? I think Elissa gets nominated and backdoored.


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  3. NorthAlabama

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    they were talking about spence as replacement. elissa won't be the target until one of mccranda goes to jury.
     
  4. mdougie

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    Yeah no way the backdoor Elissa as that hands Amanda the game.
     
  5. Sep 1, 2013 #565 of 728
    Dnamertz

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    The last couple nights Andy can't stop telling others how the only person he hates in the house is Ellissa. First he was saying it to Amanda, so I though he was just trying to make her feel like he's on her side, but last night he was telling Spencer how much he despises Ellissa (and Spencer was agreeing).

    I find Ellissa to be somewhat annoying, but I don't see where all the hatred comes from. What am I not seeing about Ellissa's behavior that is making her so hated?
     
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    nmiller855

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    Amanda claims that if she is evicted she will tell Julie Chen that she was portrayed badly & Elissa is really the problem. I don't think she‘ll actually do it but I'm really hoping that she is the one walking out the door & McCrae follows her soon.
     
  7. Sep 1, 2013 #567 of 728
    NorthAlabama

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    there are a lot of reasons. first, she lied about being rachel's sister, made up a lame story, then instantly 180'd and told the truth(why?). next, the game handed her mvp for 3 weeks(ok, ok, "online voters" handed it to her). then, she decided to make it known that her stipend is higher than the other, "non-celebrity", hg.

    she is also stubbornly determined to make her own game moves, not matter what anyone else says. that might not necessarily be a bad quality on its own, but it doesn't foster a sense of closeness with any of her alliances, or help with any other relationship in the house, killing her social game.

    add that to her "air" of superiority(especially regarding her spiritual beliefs and yoga), talk about her family (husband's) wealth, and snide, condescending comments from time to time (nothing earth shattering, just not needed), you get a full picture.

    i chalk most of it up to deep seeded insecurity issues. she might be nice to know personally in random social situations, but i don't see her as "close friend" material.
     
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    mdougie

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    I have noticed that two, and so has my wife. She just said the same thing you did as we were watching After Dark. I first I thought it was him just being his duplicitous floater self sucking up to Amanda. Now I does appear he really has hate for her.

    He has no game she exposed him. He is a floater and as someone described him he acts like that little yapping dog from loony tunes that just follows spike around jumping and kissing up.

    He has been caught in lies and is worried he will be next to go. He is pathetic.
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    this is result of having a one-sided strategy. i believe the way he started playing in the house was the only way he could survive. once he was exposed, though, he should have altered his game accordingly, and completely changed his game.

    because he hasn't, he's disposable. just not the biggest target at the moment.
     
  10. Sep 1, 2013 #570 of 728
    Ment

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    The combination of lack of social awareness and her wealthy background via her husband leads to her to make statements that annoy multiple people in the house. The other night she was telling them how her husband bought a 5K capacity hockey stadium and she was going to put a wellness center in the lower floor. She also has a sarcastic humor that I as a viewer find hilarious but houseguests find passive-aggressive. That she jokes in that way cause she doesn't have balls to confront people.
     
  11. Sep 1, 2013 #571 of 728
    Dnamertz

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    Your 1st two paragraphs are not reasons for hatred at all. Her lying about being Rachel's sisters was expected and what she needed to do. Admitting who her sister is put a huge target on her back. Lying about that is part of the game (as is the lying ALL the other HG's have done) so I don't see how that is hated.
     
  12. Sep 1, 2013 #572 of 728
    NorthAlabama

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    the entire game is based on lying, but only works when you commit to the lie, and stick with it. bad lying gets you in trouble, and changing your story makes you an even bigger target.

    of course, so why did she admit it, after deciding to lie? if she had admitted to it up front when asked, she could have started damage control. or, she could have lied, and stuck to her story. it's not like she didn't know she was rachel's sister and didn't have time to prepare a strategy.

    hg lying about background (job, age, wealth, relatives, sexual orientation, etc.) has happened several seasons, and every time the lie is discovered, it's caused bigger trouble than just telling the truth, or sticking to the original story. it's as if elissa had never watched big brother... :rolleyes:
     
  13. Sep 1, 2013 #573 of 728
    brianric

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    Lying and sticking to her story would have resulted in her demise early in the game. Pretty much everyone else knew she was Rachael's sister. When caught in a lie it is better to confess than to continue on with the lie.
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    maybe, maybe not. it all depends on how good she was at lying, and if she was willing to stick with it, all part of the game. no one knew she was rachel's sister, they suspected.

    if she had planned her response, laughed, and said "yeah, i get that all the time, i'm a big fan of rachel's, i think it's great people think we look alike, i'd love to meet her sometime", it might have worked. this would have been the second best of 3 options.

    historically, lying then confessing has been the least successful in bb.

    the best strategy would have been to be honest upfront when she was asked, immediately start damage control, form alliances, and use it to her advantage.
     
  15. Sep 1, 2013 #575 of 728
    brianric

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    I agree on your last point. In fact, I would have come out with it in the beginning without being asked.
     
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    Dnamertz

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    You saw what happened when people sit back and let others "suspect" whatever they want. They run wild with their suspicion and paranoia...like they did suspecting Judd was MVP, and when they talked themselves into believing Ellissa was MVP that one week and put herself on the block to throw them off. It didn't matter how much she denied that she wasn't MVP that week, their minds were made up.

    I saw that discussion and I didn't think there was anything wrong with her talking about her business. So, she is supposed to admit upfront who her sister is but then she shouldn't talk about her or her husband's business opportunities?

    As for her making comments about acting better than the other HGs...I see how some of her comments come off that way. But, so do other HGs. Weeks ago GM and Aaryn were in the hammock complaining about Ellissa thinking she is better that the others. GM then criticized Ellissa for wearing expensive clothes and GM said "I can buy a $2 pair of shorts and look better than her". Then minutes later GM and Aaryn went on about how fat Candice is. Talk about acting like you are better than others.
     
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    Ment

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    Its just not a smart thing to do if the aim is to grow stronger bonds with member's of the house who's financial circumstances are different. Hard to be 'one of the guys' when you talk like that and I'm not saying she said it to be prideful, its her lack of situational awareness which also makes her a horrible liar.
     
  18. Sep 1, 2013 #578 of 728
    NorthAlabama

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    i never said it was a good strategy, only the second best, and better than lying then confessing. the big difference between mvp and being rachel's sister, everyone knew up front someone was mvp, no one knew rachel's sister was in the house.
    a big contributor to this was the fact she had already won three times.
    it's about strategy, not whether it's right or wrong. can you see how this might be considered bragging by some, and could alienate other hg? how does bragging take you further in the game?
     
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    Dnamertz

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    True, but just last night Amanda was said to McCrae and someone else (I think it was Andy) that "I didn't come here for the money, I don't need the money like you or McCrae, I came to see how far I could get and I never thought I'd get this far".

    Yes, Ellissa has a situational awareness problem, but I just don't get how she is being singled out by some as being the worst person in the house when other HGs are doing these same things. Especially when your are just comparing Amanda vs Ellissa, I think Amanda by far comes accross as the worse person out of those two. Look at how she talked down to Jessie, Candice, and now Ellissa. In each of those confrontations, they were talking about the game and Amanda responded with personal attacks.
     
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    Dnamertz

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    she hasn't seen the show yet, how does she know how she is being portrayed? She has a feeling she is being portrayed badly because that is how she is acting.
     

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