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Big Brother - 8/28/13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Dnamertz, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. mdougie

    mdougie New Member

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    1. She didn't have her own special power. MVP was a power any houseguest could have won had they been not disgusting human beings. She had an advantage with Brenchel week one. After that I don't think so.

    2. She is better than most of the houseguests this season. She is better than go make some rice. She is better than I like little girls, better than a crying bully, and better than the crying floater.

    3. Commenting on larger stipend is to get under the skin of other HG. Same with the self evict talk. It is gameplay.
     
  2. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    i disagree, disagree, and disagree.
     
  3. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Tell me what game she had the first 3/4 of the season? I'm not privvy to any afterhours stuff, but, when she had an alliance with Helen, what exactly did she do with Helen? Helen would say, "I'm going to go after so and so" and Elissa would say "uh huh, or "ok". Whenever Helen would ask her what she things, she'd give her that dumb look and say "I don't know". Then she FINALLY gets power, and with no Helen, she screws up the nomination. How does it make sense to get rid of Aaryn, when you have a power duo? It was only after GM talked to her that she realized she screwed up. Too late. She's a terrible player and if McRanda wins this week, she goes home.
     
  4. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Is she getting a larger stipend? I had no idea they did that. If she's bragging about it, then she's as big a jerk as the rest of them, and putting a target on her back. Why would CBS give her a bigger stipend? Did they think we gave a darn about Rachel's SISTER?
     
  5. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I disagree, she had the Rachel advantage throughout, and I think CBS realized it and change the MVP rules. Even WITH the special power, she used it, not to further HER game but to do whatever the House wanted. You want to say it was her plan, fine? But it shows her as a weak player.

    So what? Better as a person? Perhaps, although she's had her mean girl moments as well (calling out Amanda on dressing trampy). But all that doesn't make you a better game player. Rachel constantly called the other houseguests "biatches" (without the "a"). She's heads and shoulders a better player than Elissa (and I can't stand Rachel either).

    I think that was spoilerized, since it's not common knowledge, but since it's out in the open now....you seriously think that's game play? Especially self evict talk. What advantage would that be telling Helen, who's leaving the game that you are going to screw her by leaving the game? If anything it would put into question Helen's decision to give Elissa her vote at the end of the game? She sure looked sincere saying that, and she's certainly not that great an actor. I think you have a mad crush on Elissa and have your blinders on about this one.
     
  6. mdougie

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    I don't know that she is, and have not viewed her making any such comment. I simply took it as true and ran with it.
     
  7. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I'm just going with the statement made earlier that she was bragging about it. Which is terrible form on her part. It fits in with her holier than though attitude the whole game. Amanda has one too, but Elissa seems very stuck up. Like she's a better class of human.
     
  8. mdougie

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    She and Helen had a plan week one that was foiled by a veto win and had to scramble. Then the racism/ high drama started and the game left them behind. There was no game play during those weeks. It was all personal drama cliques and vendetta. So no she didn't have game. No one had game.

    As for screwing up the nomination I don't think she did. She got to prove to GM that she is loyal. Great game play. She went after a proven comp winner. Good game play.

    As for Helen Elissa tried to get her to see the real threats. McRanda and Andy, but she didn't. She tried to reign Helen in with the I will self evict. Didn't work. That is Helens poor game not Elissas.
     
  9. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    OK, believe that if you want. No one had game play? McRanda had game play from the time they got together. Helen had game play and constantly worked to get certain people out. Andy had game play by weaseling himself into as many alliances as possible. Aaryn had game play by simply winning competitions. Elissa sat there with a dumb look on her face, did whatever Helen decided was right, and almost quit when it was apparent that Helen was going to home, leaving her alone in the game. But she's a magnificent player!! :rolleyes:

    She may win this game by default, just because the others are so unlikable that no game play might trump it. But that doesn't mean she did anything to win the game, only to not lose it.
     
  10. brianric

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    What the hell are you smoking?

    Aaryn is proven to keep her word, as when Helen saved Aaryn's butt in return to vote whomever Helen wanted if Aaryn won next HOH, which she did. Elissa could have made the same deal and have one less 3C's member that can vote against you and/or win next HOH.

    Not if Amanda, McCrae or Andy wins next HOH, then she's on the block, along with Judd or GM. Even if Elissa wins POV, she'll have one less ally after the vote.

    They're all a bunch of losers.
     
  11. mdougie

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    I smoke the good stuff.

    As far as Andy goes I think zingbot got to him. He is worried about being seen as McRanda lacky. I think he will not target Elissa.
     
  12. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    there's no way to know whether or not it's true, but if you believe the online forums, it's happened before, with recruited and returning hg.
     
  13. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I thought someone said that she's been bragging about it in the house? If she is, then I would assume it's true.
     
  14. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    i believe elissa made the comments, but i never personally heard her. janelle and boogie both claimed at one time last season they held bb over a barrel for more money, using a threat to leave the house.

    boogie never confirmed on camera his plan worked, but from reports of his behavior following dr sessions, he was successful at re-negotiating his contract for more money. janelle claimed to receive a bonus to stay after boogie had left, using the same leverage as boogie, threatening to leave.

    they both could have been bragging to save face, after they tried and failed. or, there may have been conditions set for the bonuses, and we'll never know if those conditions were met. the returning coaches all hinted they were receiving a higher stipend than the hg. the reason i'm hedging is that we only know one side, the hg comments and behavior, and not what was actually discussed with production. only the hg involved have seen the signed contracts.

    with these types of personalities, and with the basic premise of the game being lying and deceit, who knows? forum users confirmed the hg comments and behaviors, and most of what was claimed in the forums sounded believable, not over the top.
     

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