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Best way to transfer a lot of recordings between Tivos

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mwacosta, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    They changed the behavior of TiVo-TiVo transfers in regards to metadata a while back(2+ years), at least when the destination is a Series 4 or later running the HDUI.
     
  2. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Well, he said "without a hitch".. did he actually check episode # and all of the other metadata? Some of the missing info can be subtle.

    I'm not _trying_ to argue, I know it's better than it used to be..
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I dunno what he did. I do know what I've seen. You know me, I'm a metadata fanatic and if I'm satisfied.... :)

    The HDUI metadata seems to be based on the programId. If it is recognized and properly processed by the receiving TiVo, it's all good. If not, it's not. Sending it through a PC won't help.

    I suppose this is as good a place as any to report something I discovered yesterday. The use of programId for metadata acquisition applies to pushed recordings as well as pulled ones. They even end up grouped together. By that I mean that pushed, pulled, and natively recorded episodes of a series will end up in the same group.

    Unfortunately, the latter behavior makes pushes even more problematic. You can end up with pushed episodes ending up in two different groups, depending on whether or not the TiVo has a problem with the programId.

    There's also a metadata value that I consider crucial that is not based on programId and is not propagated via a push but is via a pull - the time the recording was made. This requires that you push episodes in the correct order so that they will sort properly within the group. Of course, TiVo could fix this if they implemented a "sort by OAD" option.
     
  4. opus472

    opus472 Member

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    Transferring from HD to Roamio is taking forever (at least 12 hours for a 2-hour show) with a wireless connection at 75mbps. Plus, some of the queued-up shows disappear from the queue and have to be added back again.
     
  5. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    Why not go wired for the transfer? The old box does not need a head, so move it closer to the router.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah wifi is going to be painful. Go wired and it should be faster. Although the HD isn't very fast transferring period, so it's still going to be slow.
     
  7. opus472

    opus472 Member

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    Not sure I understand why wifi would be so slow with a solid connection at 75mbps. Or why shows disappear from the queue.
     
  8. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only

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    Under network diagnostics on the Roamio, check the transfer speed for incoming programs. What speed does it show? Your internet speed has no affect. From my basic Roamio getting programs from a basic Premiere (both wireless) my normal rate is over 80Mbps. That is usually a 1 hour HD program in 15 minutes.

    It has been found that putting the source box into standby gives a small speed increase. Limit your transfer to 5 shows at once. Check the History for why the programs failed using the Info button.
     
  9. HD_Dude

    HD_Dude I Want HD in my Car

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    I just did the exact same thing. Transferred all my shows from an S3 with a 1TB HDD, to a new Roamio Pro.

    Used the TiVo to TiVo method, with wired ethernet. And yes, the S3 was not connected to cable, or antenna.

    Two things take time. First, manually picking the recordings to transfer. That's something that takes a while. Second - the transfers themselves.

    But the good news there is, you can go about your business while it happens. Sleep, leave the house, go to work, or even use the Roamio for other stuff. The transfers happen in the background.

    And now, everything is on the Pro, looks great, and the S3 can retire with dignity.
     
  10. opus472

    opus472 Member

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    Ugh, it's 5mbs
     
  11. opus472

    opus472 Member

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    What screen should I be in before using the info button?
     
  12. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    A premiere can't transfer at anywhere near those speeds. S3 boxes are very, very slow for transfers. While my Bolts can hit up to 499Mb/s for transfer speeds.

    Although if I remember it should still be able to transfer at over five times that speed. But that would still be under 30Mb/s
     
  13. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only

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    TiVo Central, Manage Recording & OnePass. It's under the OnePass Manager. If there is no reason then it was deleted remotely.
     
  14. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only

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    Transfers initiated by my basic Premieres are always about 60-65Mbps. Those initiated by the basic Roamio are just over 80Mbps when getting data from a Premiere.
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    For some reason I was thinking S3 instead of a Premiere. :eek: I still have one lifetime Premiere here, unplugged that I haven't used in a while.
     
  16. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra Cable only

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    Not your fault. There are two different posters with transfer issues. One with a Premier (OP) and another with an S3.
     
  17. Restlessmonkey

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