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Best way to transfer a lot of recordings between Tivos

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by mwacosta, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    From S3 to Roamio you will lose some of the data. They changed the format somewhere along the line and never updated the S3 software to match. From Premiere to Roamio you retain everything.
     
  2. TripFoeYa

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    Thank you Dan, I appreciate the info. I'm sure I have over 300 shows that need transferring. I know my thumb will be hurting after all those button pushes.:(
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I did almost 200, was a little daunting. Had to take a couple of breaks in the middle.
     
  4. unitron

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    What about from S3 to S3?

    And does it make a difference if one is a 648 and the other a 652 or 658?
     
  5. Dan203

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    I think you might lose a bit of data going S3 to S3 as well. I no longer have any S3 units, so I can't say for sure.
     
  6. mattack

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    At least between OLED S3 & TivoHD, you definitely lost data.

    Like I think I said above, if you download with kmttg, then transfer to the new Tivo, it will be easier, and I *think* you may have some metadata retained that you wouldn't otherwise.
     
  7. TripFoeYa

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    250+ transfers later I can now say for sure that Premiere to Roamio retains all show data. :)
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yep, for me too. Also moved my wife from 2 tuner Premiere to an XL4 and that did too. KMTTG also made moving the SPs a breeze.
     
  9. sfhub

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    So from OLED S3 to Roamio, the best way to retain data is to first transfer to PC using kmttg?

    Will kmttg then take care of the meta-data translation to the newer format mentioned above?

    Is it still true there is loss of data with OLED S3 11.0m (which I believe folks have said only solved the expired cookie issue, but I don't know if people really investigated in depth)
     
  10. Dan203

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    I think there will be a loss of some data, such as episode numbers, actor information, etc.., when transferring from a S3 unit no matter if you do it via the PC or TiVo to TiVo. If the source TiVo is a Premiere or Roamio then all data is retained TiVo to TiVo.
     
  11. Mikem965

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    I'm trying to transfer programs from my premier to my new roamio. I get 10-11 programs in que and then get a C133 error stating I've lost wireless connectivity.
    Tried this 4 times and the same thing happens. What am I doing wrong?
     
  12. telemark

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    Maybe nothing wrong. Sounds like intermittent wireless signal.

    Is the box with the error on Ethernet as well? Do wifi computers near that Tivo have reliable internet?

    Weak wifi will cause all sorts of headaches so if that's it you'll definitely want to try to fix it.
     
  13. aaronwt

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    Also some APs can't handle a consistent, fast wireless connection either and will cause issues.
     
  14. dbaguy

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    I realize this is an old thread but it would sure be nice if Tivo had a way of bulk selecting shows to copy from tivo to tivo.
     
  15. mattack

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    Yeah, but that's not really the "intent". Plus, you often lose things like episode #, episode title, etc., when moving between Tivos.. (As I said before, you often get BETTER metadata, but still not perfect, when using a computer as the go-between.)

    Yes, I wish it all worked perfectly wholly in the Tivo ecosystem, but it doesn't.
     
  16. aaronwt

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    Really? When I transfer content from my Roamio Pro connected to cable to my Roamio Basic on OTA, all that info has always been intact. Even going from the BAsic to the Pro with OTA content, the info is still intact.

    And then if I transfer it to my TiVo Desktop PC with KMTTG and then go to my BAsic and transfer it from the PC, all the info has still been intact. So far I have not run across any issues with it since getting my Roamio Basic last fall.
     
  17. lpwcomp

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    Metadata retention on a transfer is much better now when the destination is a Premiere or Roamio, regardless of the source. You still lose some on occasion, again regardless of source. In particular, any of the data such as Season & Episode #'s that are based on programId can be lost.
     
  18. p1ague

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    I concur with everyone saying that PC data retention is unlikely to be better, and could be worse, than TiVo to TiVo in almost every case. The one thing that I've found makes TiVo1 -> PC then TiVo2 <- PC preferable in some cases (I wrote it like this to show that it's "pull" rather than "push".. I don't think "push" is good for metadata in ANY case,) is that, if you select the "metadata" checkbox in kmttg, and serve it up with PyTivo including metadata from that .txt file, then that means you are able to EDIT the metadata.. fix episode numbers that get broken, etc.

    There does seem to be a huge issue, though, this only works the first time, if you examine and fix the metadata .txt file BEFORE pulling the show.. once TiVo2 has seen bad metadata with a particular ProgramID value in it, it hangs on to that bad data, and it looks like it will ignore any fixes you make.
     
  19. mattack

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    I guess I should try it again.. Back when I was doing a lot more transferring to computer, the data was way better on the computer than tivo<>tivo.
     
  20. sangs

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    I just transferred a bunch of recordings from Roamio to Roamio and it went off without a hitch - and was pretty speedy as well.
     

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