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Bering Sea Gold - All Season Thread w/ spoilers

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jradosh, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    I agree that these people must just live there in the summer which is probably a good reason the locals don't like them.
     
  2. DeDondeEs

    DeDondeEs Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Man the Discovery Channel is becoming the white trash channel. You have roughnecks, moonshiners, pawn shops, trash pickers. What's next "American Hobo" or "Pay Day Loaners" I wish these shows would focus more on the actual science of gold mining, or moonshine production, but instead we are shown way too much of their personal lives. Anyone who would actually sympathize with these folks probably can't afford cable.
     
  3. nataylor

    nataylor Curiously Strong TCF Club

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    What more do you need to know than gold is 200 times heavier than water? </sarcasm>

    That seems to be the extent of the science we get.
     
  4. DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    Seriously, I don't understand why there isn't some commercial outfit up there. That crew with the bucket dredging has brought in $150k in 2 days of work. Assuming the Excavator is 500k, and the boat is 200k, you could make back the cost of the equipment in one year probably and then it'd be all profit. It looked like they only needed 2 hands to run the thing so you'd just split it 2 ways. Something isn't adding up.
     
  5. Gary McCoy

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    What doesn't add up is that we met the owners of that big dredge in the first episode, the elder Pomrenke and his son Shawn. Senior made the decision that they would launch without working propulsion the first day, but he was not working on the dredge, his son was. Then his son got stabbed in a bar fight, and senior worked the second day even though he knew nothing about boats. The third hand we have seen working on both days out is not a Pomrenke.

    Speaking as a former member of the USCG, who spent a year on a duty station only 44 miles from Nome, the general condition and lack of safety equipment and lack of nautical expertise among these gold dredgers is appalling.

    I mean, I know there is a camera crew on each dredge we can't see, plus a hidden radio and probably a rescue helicopter with inflatable pontoons on the landing skids. But an unheated wetsuit in such frigid water will only increase survival from a few minutes to 40 minutes or so before one becomes unconscious.
     
  6. jradosh

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    They made a point of mentioning that they pumped heated water into the diving suits. They even showed one crew manufacturing the heating mechanism in the last episode.
     
  7. pmyers

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    My Google powers must be off because I can't find the correct terms to search for to find out anything further about "claims" and how they work, offshore.
     
  8. DavidTigerFan

    DavidTigerFan No, not Detroit. TCF Club

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    It seriously looks like they just paddle out about a mile, drop anchor, and start sucking.
     
  9. Bob Coxner

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    I found a website offering Alaskan claims for sale. http://www.akmining.com/mine/sellclaims.htm

    Here's one that includes offshore Nome:

    Updated 3/28/11

    Nome Beach Claims - Eight contiguous State of Alaska 40-acre beach claims for sale, located at the mouth of the Cripple River, 11 miles west of the Nome jetty. Each claim is 1,320 feet wide and extends offshore up to 1,320 feet from the mean high tide mark on the beach. These claims are suitable for high-banking during low tides and dredging in the nearshore environment. In total, the buyer would have 240 acres or over two miles of the gold-bearing, ruby sands of fabled Nome. Will sell all eight claims for $190,000. Please contact agent, Jeff Keener, at 907-474-0943 or jeffkeener@hotmail.com

    Here's the State of Alaska site dealing with claims: http://dnr.alaska.gov/commis/pic/permits.htm

    Offshore Mining Leases and Prospecting Permits for locatable or potential locatable minerals on state-owned tide and submerged lands are offered for issuance if the DNR conducts a Disposal of Interest for a specific offshore area. If known locatable mineral deposits exist, the DNR conducts a competitive offshore lease disposal, otherwise a noncompetitive offshore prospecting permit disposal is held. Leases are issued for variable terms, up to indefinite if activity is occurring, and offshore prospecting permits are issued for a term of 10 years as long as adequate prospecting work in done each year. Permit acreage may be converted to lease at any time during the 10 years if workable mineral deposits are located. For more information, contact Kerwin Krause, Division of Mining, Land & Water, at (907) 269-8652 or by e-mail at: kerwin.krause@alaska.gov.
     
  10. Frylock

    Frylock Live Long and Tivo!

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    Beats living on the boat in the Bearing sea!
     
  11. pmyers

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    hmmm...which would lead me to believe that there are claims, but they certainly don't show anybody using any GPS coordinates or any buoy markers to designate areas.
     
  12. GDG76

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    They did show the guy who lives in the yurt tracking a GPS to tell his partner when to drop anchor.

    You would think these claims would be a little different than traditional ones - with the glaciers moving and general movement on the ocean, I wonder if they can mine the same area over and over.

    Anyway, it was an interesting show. I'm surprised there isn't more regulation about who can dive and the safety equipment needed to do so.
     
  13. brettatk

    brettatk Thread Killer

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    As mentioned, a few things don't add up. Wouldn't surprise me if it was another fake like Gold Rush Alaska. Even if it is, I'll probably still watch.
     
  14. DeDondeEs

    DeDondeEs Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I was just assuming it was fake.
     
  15. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    You're right, I do remember that now. But I kind of got the feeling that was more because that's where they went before (and had good luck), than that's where they HAD to go.
     
  16. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    How is Gold Rush 100% fake? You would think if it was 100% fake, they would be finding gold all the time.

    Now, those shows on truTV, that's totally fake. Gold Rush is probably only 50% fake :D, this show may be anywhere from 25% to 75% fake I'd say.
     
  17. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    I prefer to you "staged" than "fake"
     
  18. DanB

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    not necessarily. Maybe watching folks fail makes better TV?
     
  19. Gary McCoy

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    I understand that. But that is under normal working conditions when the dredge is in working order. If they have to abandon ship there won't be any engines running, and no heated water for the suits. Their survival is then less than an hour.

    When I was stationed near Nome at Port Clarence, we used our station small boats to cross the 1.5 miles of water to a gold mine called Lost River. We had to wear wet suits at all times, and do a radio check every 15 minutes. That gave us another 15-20 minutes to respond and rescue anyone in the water in a wet suit before they died of exposure.
     
  20. jradosh

    jradosh Newlywed

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    OK... enough bitching about your crew as if it's your crew's fault that the police are after you for failure to pay child support. You're clearly a deadbeat dad trying desperately to strike it rich rather than just taking a hard job and scrapping by. Totally unlikeable. :mad:

    Actually there aren't too many likeable characters here. The only ones I am rooting for are the boy/girl team.

    But I'm still enjoying the show. :)
     

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