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Beloved Series 2 Keeps Rebooting

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by GrtEscGtr301, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. sbourgeo

    sbourgeo Hepcat Daddio

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    That's a good question. My stock drive was shot so I don't have that point of reference. I'm not sure what image GrtEscGtr301's was initially running though. :confused:
     
  2. unitron

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    I'm now watching this thread closely as well. I also recently lost a series 2, posted in a thread above. Unitron helped me as well, and got it to boot properly with his image, but has since failed.

    I never bootlooped, but in my case it never got past the almost there screen before a crash/black screen. Hopefully this can be worked out...
     
  4. GrtEscGtr301

    GrtEscGtr301 New Member

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    Hi guys. Been traveling a bit but just caught up on the thread. In the meantime I've located a 40GB drive that I labeled "TiVo A Drive". Not sure which machine it's from but I'm pretty sure it's a TiVo stock drive. So I'm going to reinstall that and see if that can make the B-to-C upgrade.

    Second I will download Unitron's C image and see if I can get that to work. I'll post the results back here, as always. Wish me luck....
     
  5. Todd B.

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    You should make a backup of the stock drive before installing or doing any upgrades to it. It might be useful for troubleshooting or for other people to test with.

    As for Unitron's current C images, I think the consensus in the other thread is that they don't work, and he is working on taking and posting new backups.
     
  6. GrtEscGtr301

    GrtEscGtr301 New Member

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    Well, folks, it looks like this is the end of the line. Simply placing the stock drive in the S2 never got past the Welcome screen, and trying to install the "C" version on the drive resulted in a "drive too small" error from MFSLive (as Todd B hinted might happen). At this point, She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed has shut down the project, citing the need to re-assemble her computer (the only one that still handles the S2 ATA drives) and a refusal to sit through one more 3-hour Guided Setup loop.

    I think 9 years is a good run for the S2, and we've certainly gotten our money's worth from the Lifetime Service purchase. We still have one more S2 left in the family so it will be interesting to see if that one can last just as long. The new Roamio will be ordered tomorrow so we'll have a shiny new plaything to hold our attention for a while.

    Unitron, bless you for all the help you've provided trying to get this fixed, and for all the help you've provided to others on this board. Sbourgeo, thanks to you, too, for trying to help out. I hope this issue finally gets fixed and, if so, maybe I'll be able to rescue the old gal after all.
     
  7. Todd B.

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    9 years is a good run, but what bothers me most about this is that the hardware is still perfectly fine and serviceable. It's simply this software issue, which shouldn't be an issue. I hate to get rid of something that still works.

    That said, I also ended up just picking up a Roamio this weekend, and I will probably give my Dad (who had the problem Series 2) my Tivo HD, and then I'll sell this Series 2, if/when we ever get a fix.
     
  8. sbourgeo

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    In the worst case, I was able to get unitron's WinMFS 9.3.2c image to boot, run a CD&E, and go through guided setup even though the restore crashed during the cleanup phase. I don't have a good feel for long-term stability, but it looks like it might be good enough so I can have it call in periodically and keep my MSD intact.
     
  9. unitron

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  10. sbourgeo

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    I can verify that the latest MFSLive 9.3.2c backup brought my S2 back from the perpetual reboot loop death! Thanks unitron, you've helped a bunch of us out quite a bit (again). :cool:
     
  11. unitron

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    And you were using the .bak and not the .tbk version?

    As soon as I get confirmation that both the MFS Live and WinMFS versions work I can pull any other 540 images and get some space back on DropBox.

    Anybody got a 540 or 240 power supply they want to sell cheap?
     
  12. sbourgeo

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    Yes, the .bak version works fine.

    I have an HDVR2 power supply that'll work in a 540. PM me your address and it's yours.
     
  13. GrtEscGtr301

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    Hey, Unitron, I'm back. Through a comical set of circumstances we haven't gotten the new Roamio yet and this post caught my eye. Before I subject She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed to yet another round of computer disassembly, C&DE, GS, anticipation, and ultimate heartbreak, is there a minimum drive size that this "C" image needs to be restored? The target drive is a 160GB. Thanks.
     
  14. sbourgeo

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    One of the tests I did was to restore this image to a 40 GB Maxtor drive I had hanging around, which worked fine. I was also able to restore to and expand a 250 GB drive, so you should be good to go with a 160 GB drive.
     
  15. unitron

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    sbourgeo was able to use a 40GB drive because he used a Maxtor 40GB drive from the days when the Maxtors were a little bit bigger than other brands where everyone was saying their drive was "X"GB.

    That's why I put a minimum Logical Block Array number in that post.

    As long as the LBA number of your drive is bigger, you're good to go.

    I guess the next biggest drive made back then by anybody would have been a 60GB, so if it says that on it, or larger, you're good to go as well, as even rounding up, the Maxtor I made the image from is only like 41GB.
     
  16. photobrian

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    Hello all,
    I have TWO old toshiba SD400's and one of them has version "c" and the other version "b" and the "b" version I believe is having the problem described in this thread. After a series of reboots(sometimes dozens, sometimes just one) it will come back up and work however it wants to restart itself every night in the middle of the night and inevitably it gets stuck on the "almost there" screen and never finishes rebooting. Once in a while when I unplug it and plug it back in the screen will say "installing a service update" and it will come up to the tivo screen but still did not actually complete the update.

    Since I have a working unit with version C is there any way to pull the image from that machine and fix my other? I feel like these machines have always had different software on them so its like this version has been installed for years and is only now becoming a problem when..but what do I know except the one doesnt work and it's super frustrating. lol. Thanks.
     
  17. sbourgeo

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    If the units are identical, you can absolutely use the image from the working unit on the one stuck in the reboot loop. Check out the WinMFS/MFSLive info at mfslive.org for more details.
     
  18. GrtEscGtr301

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    Sounds good. I'm on the road for a couple of weeks but I'll give it a shot as soon as I get home. Thanks again.
     

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