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"Behind the Candelabra" HBO Liberace Movie

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by MikeAndrews, May 27, 2013.

  1. mwhip

    mwhip All better

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    Totally agree. Douglas was perfectly convincing as Lee when he was being sweet or loving but the moment he would get mad he would fall right back into those Michael Douglas crutches and mannerisms and couldn't maintain his voice when angry or upset.

    I also had not sympathy for Scott. You were told you would be replaced by someone younger eventually and you were.
     
  2. bobcarn

    bobcarn Birthday Hug Monkey

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    I watched a little over half of it last night, and will try to catch the rest before the weekend is over. I wasn't interested in seeing it, but my beau put it on and I did find myself getting into it, mainly from the great performances.

    I can see Scott being naïve and have more sympathy for him after realizing from reading here that he was only 17 when he met Lee. I too thought he was mid-20s when they met, but seeing as he was much younger, I can believe that he would be more malleable and trusting. Though my sympathy is only relegated to his agreement to undergo the plastic surgery. He had a lot of potential to rise pretty high since he was only in his early to mid 20s when they split. It's not like he wasted his whole life and was pushed out with nothing. FYI, he's currently in jail awaiting trial, and was released from prison just this past February. He could have done better for himself.

    One of my favorite lines so far:
    Liberace (following surgery): Will I be able to close my eyes?
    Plastic surgeon: Not entirely.
     
  3. Jstkiddn

    Jstkiddn Shutity up up up

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    Yeah, I think if they had made that part clear in the movie it would have changed some opinions. 17 is really young! In retrospect, does anyone else thing that it seems they went out of their way to make it NOT seem he was that young? Maybe it was no more than the impossibility of making Damon look that young, but I still feel like that was a pretty big piece of the story to just leave out.
     
  4. Tracy

    Tracy Truly TCF Club

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    When I first saw Matt Damon at the start of the movie I was impressed. I thought he looked about 18. Turns out he is over 40! They painted a pretty sympathetic picture of Scott. Looked him up and he is currently in jail.

    The other thing that struck me is that apparently Liberace fans and organizations were supportive of the movie, so they must feel it is an accurate and fair portrayal.
     
  5. sieglinde

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    Looks like an interesting movie.
     
  6. sharkster

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    I'm reading Scott's book now and he says that he was 18 when he met Lee, and Lee was 57. I haven't done the research to find out his age now, and figure it back, yet. But that's the claim he made in the book.

    I'm finding the book very interesting. It has a lot of background stuff about Lee growing up, etc.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the movie. All three main actors were pretty good. I wanted to see more of the mother (played by Debbie Reynolds).

    Rob Lowe was good. How creepy could that character be?? He's become one of my favorite actors for playing a really creeepy character. The 'can't close your eyes all the way' thing was mega-creepy.
     
  7. javabird

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    Really? I didn't know that either. I grew up watching him on Bewitched reruns. :)
     
  8. MikeAndrews

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    Paul Lynde was also the father in "Bye, Bye Birdie" on Broadway and in the movie.
     
  9. Satchel

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    I pegged Debbie Reynolds from her voice...couldn't recognize her at all in that makeup.

    As for Scott, with the scene at the beginning where he was the animal handler on the movie, I find it impossible to believe a movie or TV show would trust a 17 year old to do that job.

    They did go out of their way to make it seem like he was older.
     
  10. TonyD79

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    I was confused on that point. Was he the handler or an assistant of some type?
     
  11. Cainebj

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    It is highly amusing to read the hetero comments on what they don't know about gay sex.

    I thought the entire cast did an amazing job.
    Douglas and Damon were brilliant.
    The moment I realized that was Debbie Reynolds playing the Mom - and I didn't for quite a while - wow.

    I'm tempted to read the book.
     
  12. sieglinde

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    Glad to see that Debbie Reynolds is still working
     
  13. sharkster

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    I am enjoying the book. I'm only about a third of the way through. It's totally not what some might think, in terms of just being a big bash on Liberace. It feels pretty even-handed AND, actually, written with love.

    The only thing that bummed me out a little was the lack of photos (in the paperback version, anyway - perhaps the OOP hardcover has some). I like having glossy photos in a bio piece.

    Most remarkable, however, is the cover pic of both of them that was clearly taken after Scott's plastic surgery. So many of his facial characteristics are so much like Liberace's. He was a better looking young man before the surgery, obviously.
     
  14. gchance

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    After watching the movie, I did a couple image searches of Scott... and he looks a LOT like Liberace. That plastic surgeon may have been creepy, but he did what he set out to do, for sure.

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    So much to this story. The plastic surgeon committed suicide after a lot of his patients started having problems.

    Here's a NY Times article about it from 1988. Nip/Tuck to the extreme. The Dark Side of Plastic Surgery

    I have to say, I totally bought Michael Douglas as Liberace. He did an amazing job.

    Greg
     
  15. YCantAngieRead

    YCantAngieRead Not Entirely Current

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    Did they hollywood up the piano playing scenes? I'm sure they did, but I'm completely torn between it being and awesome job and it being totally cheese ball.

    I'm enjoying it. I'm also reading the book at the same time, so it's interesting to compare the two. As said above, the book really does seem to be written genuinely. Kind of changed what little I remembered about the "galimony" case when I was a kid.
     
  16. jamesbobo

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    Scott is on Howard Stern right now. He just said he's never received anal sex in his life. That was asked after he said he was treated for rectal cancer.
     
  17. brebeans

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    Agree.
     
  18. sharkster

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    I'm really glad I read the book. I could hardly put it down and was bummed out when I was finished. I wanted more. Then, after I finished the book, I watched the movie again.

    The movie really kept close to the book except, of course, you cannot fit everything into a movie.
     
  19. gchance

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    Nope, I was struck by how well they played it. It was extremely cheese ball, but you can't entirely blame Liberace for it. It was VEGAS. That's what Las Vegas was in those days.

    I grew up watching Liberace on TV whenever he was on, my father loved him. Between Liberace and the MDA Telethon each year, it was the closest to Vaudeville a kid growing up in the late 70s/early 80s could see. Just a different kind of entertainment.



    Greg
     
  20. YCantAngieRead

    YCantAngieRead Not Entirely Current

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    No, you misunderstand. I was talking of purely Michael Douglass playing the piano. You can't learn that kind of playing, so i assumed it was an effect, and that effect is what I was talking about being a bit cheesy.

    The rest of it I was partly alive for. I remember the awesome cheesetastic nature of it.
     

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