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Basic Roamio or Basic Premiere 4?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by lillevig, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    eh, I guess I just don't watch TV as much as some of you guys. I will just side-load some shows onto a tablet if going on a trip, no need to transport the DVR physically.
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I would love to replace my OTA Premiere with a Romaio Basic for OTA. Right now I take the Premiere with me to my GFs house so we can watch some shows recorded from cable on my Roamio Pro. It would be even better with the smaller form factor of the Roamio Basic. If I could transfer the $6.95 a month I pay for the Premiere over to the Roamio I would do it in a heartbeat.

    i tried the media player / USB drive route for a while, but it was just easier and quicker to transfer the content to the TiVo and carry the premiere to her house. Although when the Stream capabilities come to android, i'll give a shot to transferring content to a tablet for playback.
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    That's what the Stream is for. Right now you can copy shows over to your tablet to take with your on trips. And in the future you'll be able to stream shows remotely. (ala Slingbox) So there is no need to take the whole DVR on a trip with you.

    Plus even if you did take it on a trip, and used OTA exclusively, you'd have to rerun Guided Setup for every location which is hardly ideal.
  4. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

    Dec 6, 2010
    Marion, Iowa
    "Dismissive" is a rather abrasive term and not at all helpful to this discussion. I evaluated your rationale and decided that the speed factors you cited are not important to me. A better response was the one following yours that listed the actual tech upgrades beyond what the Premiere is capable of. Those don't appeal to me either and I can't see them being something I will regret not having in the future. No, I'm not tech challenged. In fact I'm a retired engineer who is comfortable in both the HW and SW realms. On the other hand, I'm practical and buy what I need without regard for the desire to have the "best".
  5. apw2607

    apw2607 New Member

    Nov 16, 2012
    Speed translates to overall user experience. There's nothing worse in any device than having to wait for a response. Sadly for all the good tivo provides with its ease of use experience, the premier platform just failed to deliver.

    Roamio also provides a Netflix client that doesn't suffer the famous black screen problem. It can upscale 720p or 1080i to 1080p unlike premier locked at 1080i. It does a great job upscaling 720p to 1080p btw, unlike premiers mediocre upscaling abilities. It has the power that can support apps ... again unlike premier that doesn't have the horsepower. The base Roamio is compatible with stream, unlike base Premier.

    I wouldn't pay $1 for a premier now or take one even if they were giving then away free. Sorry, time to move on. You have to consider total cost of ownership ..... And what you get out of it.

    Spending 15 bucks a month or adding 399/499 to a mediocre platform makes no sense.
  6. dave13077

    dave13077 Member

    Jan 11, 2009
    I believe Tivo knew that the Premiere line was under powered when they released it. It never lived up to their own hype and that is Tivos fault. Why they didn't offer some sort of reduced (olive branch) cost upgrade offer to the Romano from the Premiere I will never know. I think it would have been the right thing to do, but then again what do I know.
  7. cram501

    cram501 Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    The Roamio is a better user experience. If the prices/features your looking at are in the same ball park, the Roamio would be a better buy.

    One thing to keep in mind since you already have a couple of Premieres is the increased speed of the Roamio. Now that I have a Roamio, the lag on my old S3's is irritating as hell when I use them.
  8. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    Honestly I don't see that you have evaluated anything other than subjective comments from the members here (many of whom have been TiVo owners for over a decade).

    If you haven't evaluated a Roamio unit, or at a minimum looked at demo videos on Youtube that tout the speed of the interface (as well as the speed of apps like Netflix) then you haven't done an evaluation.

    You asked for advice.... the overwhelming advice is that for the $70 or so difference in coast between a refurbished XL4 and a new Roamio basic, you'd be crazy not to get the Roamio due to it being a new platform that will continue getting development which is increasingly important with more content going online in the future. The one advantage an XL4 would have over a Roamio Basic is the larger hard drive, however, replacing the hard drive in the Basic with a larger one is a pretty trivial thing, and 1 or 2 TB drives are also not very expensive.

    You're an engineer, got it. Lots of engineers around here, including myself.
  9. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

    May 14, 2007
    Wow, you're an engineer? Here this whole time I thought you were an awesome guitar player for Led Zeppelin, who knew!!! ;) :p
  10. JasonD

    JasonD New Member

    Mar 30, 2003
    San Diego
    Hey I'm an Engineer too electrical, and I recommend getting a Roamio also. Using a Premiere is like taking a. Shower with your socks on. Sure you can do it, but why?
  11. jmpage2

    jmpage2 Active Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    Engineering is a pretty good day-job-gig. Led Zeppelin not selling as many records these days. :)

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