So basically to do what one Tivo can do, in terms of auto recording, you need three DTV DVR equivalents (a Genie being the equivalent of two DVRs in one box) I have considered doing that, but being that I regularly have over 150 (like 154), I'd need a 4th DVR to meet my needs. No thanks, I'll stick with the one Tivo that I currently have. IF this new HS17 turns out to be a dream box with 8 tuners and an unlimited number of auto records and a massive HDD, sure I'll switch to it. But given DTV's track record, I'm not holding my breath. I've been a DTV customer since 1998, before Tivo was even available. Jumped onto the Tivo box as soon as it was available for DTV. I've seen DTV get greedier and greedier over the last decades. You used to be able to buy a DTV tuner card for a PC, you used to be able to buy TV's with DTV built in, you used to be able to buy tuners made by Samsung and Sony. My first DTV Tivo was made by Samsung. DTV is almost as bad as Apple when it comes to killing competition.