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AT&T talks merger with DirecTV

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Johncv, May 1, 2014.

  1. May 14, 2014 #61 of 214
    JosephB

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    Yes, but DirecTV was never a fully consolidated subsidiary of News Corp. AT&T would be buying every outstanding share, not a 20% supervoting share like News and Liberty did.
     
  2. May 14, 2014 #62 of 214
    Bigg

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    The biggest change will just be bundling, but they do that to a limited extent now. They will offer U-Verse VDSL bundles with satellite now, which they currently don't. And some wireless bundles.

    It will put them in a kind of awkward position with Verizon though, in the markets that Verizon bundles with D*, but I guess they are all buddy-buddy among the big telcos anyways.
     
  3. May 14, 2014 #63 of 214
    Dan203

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    Isn't Verizon looking to sell off their POTS/DSL business anyway? Maybe AT&T will buy that up so they can offer these bundles in all markets?
     
  4. May 15, 2014 #64 of 214
    JosephB

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    AT&T just sold off all of their wireline business in Connecticut, including U-Verse (Verizon also included FiOS in the areas they sold off).

    I don't think either of them are terribly interested in their wireline service areas anymore. In areas that are dense enough to make a decent profit, sure, but the rural areas are going to get hit hard by both Verizon and AT&T exiting those areas.
     
  5. May 15, 2014 #65 of 214
    stevel

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    Verizon sold off all their POTS/DSL/FiOS business in northern New England to Fairpoint Communications, a tiny SC-based carrier. It was an extremely bumpy transition for many years. Fairpoint service is fine, but they haven't made any improvements in all the years since and stopped their fiber deployment. I'm lucky to have fiber Internet service, and am glad I don't have to deal with Comcast, but I would like to see some forward motion.
     
  6. May 15, 2014 #66 of 214
    JosephB

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    Government intervention, including funding and subsidies and not just from the Federal level, will be required to improve networks, especially those outside of major urban areas. Title II classification of broadband as a utility is step one, and then step two is to force universal service (although it's hard to say who has to service a given area....it was easy to mandate Ma Bell service the whole country when they were the only phone company) and then some kind of universal service fee like applies to landline phones to subsidize the buildout in non-profitable areas or to push speeds higher.
     
  7. May 15, 2014 #67 of 214
    Dan203

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    I agree that the internet should be classified as a utility. That would also allow the FCC to reinstate the net neutrality rules which were stuck down by the court specifically because ISPs are not considered utilities.
     
  8. May 15, 2014 #68 of 214
    Bigg

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    They have done some improvements to the DSL infrastructure... they're offering 15mbps DSL, and they've even put in RDSLAMs in to service the islands up in the Big Lake...

    Whoever the incumbent phone company is.

    What would be really weird is if Verizon sold AT&T their copper and then AT&T offered U-Verse over the copper with Verizon doing FIOS... they probably wouldn't sell it though just for that reason.

    A utopian future for broadband competition would have any developed area covered by a U-Verse style network, another company with GPON or WDM-PON, and then two cable companies. Or even 3 of those 4 would be great, as long as one of them is FTTH...
     
  9. May 15, 2014 #69 of 214
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    tarheelblue32

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    The only positive thing I can say about this merger is that it would make it highly unlikely that DirecTV and Dish Network will ever be allowed to merge.
     
  11. May 16, 2014 #71 of 214
    Diana Collins

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    That very closely describes broadband in the UK (first time I recall the UK and "Utopia" being linked). :)

    I was just talking to a British ex-pat co-worker and he says 50/10Mbps broadband service in the UK averages only about £10 per month.
     
  12. May 16, 2014 #72 of 214
    Dan203

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    For me a utopian future would be municipal fiber to the home with users able to choose whatever video provider they want because all video is delivered via IP over the internet.
     
  13. May 16, 2014 #73 of 214
    atmuscarella

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    Funny I just posted something close to that (I was/am ok with a regulated utility) at the end of another post I made earlier today:


    Guess great minds must think alike :D
     
  14. May 16, 2014 #74 of 214
    Dan203

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    That would be perfect. Make data like electricity where you pay by the bit, then have video providers compete with one another nationally, or even globally, via IP delivery. Whether it's a linear multi-channel service like cable, al-la-carte channels, or pure VOD they all com into your home via IP on that single fiber line. Without the overhead of having to maintain the network cable prices should get cheaper. And if you throw in the competition that should drive down prices even more.
     
  15. May 16, 2014 #75 of 214
    Bigg

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    Really? They have that much competition?

    Flat rate, not by the bit, as that would be a huge disincentive to providing high quality video. I want the c-band feeds bit for bit like Google Fiber does.
     
  16. May 16, 2014 #76 of 214
    Dan203

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    Flat rate is fine by me. Where do I sign up? :D
     
  17. May 16, 2014 #77 of 214
    HarperVision

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    unitron

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    All the paperwork in both directions is carried by Unicorn Express.

    :D
     
  19. May 17, 2014 #79 of 214
    Bigg

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    Does your ISP meter now?
     
  20. May 18, 2014 #80 of 214
    Diana Collins

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    Apparently...he said that at his place in the London suburbs he had the choice of 6 different ISPs.
     

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