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Anyone else catch Pawn Stars on the History channel?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by scooterboy, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    plus I bet he ends up selling a lot of this stuff directly to the experts after he buys it (they get first crack and a reduced price). Makes sense they would jump at the chance to be his expert.
     
  2. janry

    janry New Member

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    I've wondered if the experts aren't the ones that really buy the items. When they did the wrecked helicopter bit, Rick was supposedly told about it by a guy that operated some shop associated with that brand of helicopter and he was telling Rick how good a deal this was. Then he was the expert that rebuilt the helicopter. If it was such a good deal, why wouldn't he have just bought it himself, fixed it and pocketed the profits.

    Regardless, it's an entertaining show.
     
  3. Unbeliever

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    That's quite common in aviation. Very few FBOs[1] own their rental aircraft because very few have the capital to do it. Aircraft aren't cheap, usually. They lease them from private individuals or other companies. Leasing them also puts the onus and the risk of large maintenance costs on the owners, and not the FBOs themselves.

    Fixing up that helicopter was a sweet deal for the FBO. They got all the labor and parts markups, and none of the risk of having to put up the cash.

    I'm well convinced that EVERY encounter we see is scripted and recruited. There may be a few people that may come in unexpectedly and are asked to come back when the cameras are in, but they all know what's coming in the door. Random bad editing hints like scenes where you can see the front door, and it's bright daylight when the patron comes in, pitch black outside in the middle of the negotiations, and then bright daylight again at the end. Or the cutaway interludes:

    Expert: "This is worth 1 million dollars"
    <cut away> Patron in parking lot: "Now that I know how much it's worth, I'm not going less than half a million"
    <cut back, with no time passed from the cutaway> Rick: "How much do you want?"
    Patron: "1 million"
    Rick: "No, I'll give you 5 bucks."
    Patron: "Sold"

    But knowing its scripted lets me enjoy the show a bit more. I in no way am under the illusion it's reality, but a comedy show with some history thrown in.

    --Carlos V.

    [1] Fixed Base Operators. Aviation companies with a storefront.
     
  4. Queue

    Queue UnbowdUnbentUnbrokn

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    Maybe the expert didn't have the money like Rick did?
     
  5. ellinj

    ellinj Seems Very Friendly TCF Club

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    I am more suprised about the type of "experts" that seem to be available in the area. Wonder if history channel is flying them in.
     
  6. Idearat

    Idearat New Member

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    I've lived in Las Vegas and it's an interesting city. It's pretty good sized and it needs a lot close by to support it. It's also very isolated from any other large or even medium sized cities, so there's no going 100 miles to the next city for an expert. I think you'd have to go to Manhattan to find another place in the U.S. where there's so much in such a small area.

    They might be flying some in, but since you're not going to find an expert from 200 miles away ( no other big city ) you might just find them 10 miles away.
     
  7. omnibus

    omnibus cowboy, yee-ha

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    First time I saw the show I thought it was in Seattle because the observation tower was the only thing recognizable on the skyline.
     
  8. Mars Rocket

    Mars Rocket Loosely wound

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    Los Angeles is less than 300 miles away and is loaded with experts, many of which would be happy to make the drive for $100-250. I have no doubt that the production company is paying for a lot of that.

    Hell, we used to drive there for fun weekends when I went to UCLA. Through the desert it's really only about a 3 1/2-4-hour drive.
     
  9. scottjf8

    scottjf8 Dada and Kaya.

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    Did you scream "ROAD TRIP!!" out the window of the car at little kids too?
     
  10. brianp6621

    brianp6621 Active Member

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    They didn't drink the wine. This was one of the more staged things they have done.

    You can clearly see the wine they were originally holding was cloudy (not having been filtered) and then as there was a cut away and back to them about to drink, the wine was very clear.

    It was very obvious that they changed to good/at least well produced wine and faked the reactions.
     
  11. tgewin

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    My wife and I were curious about Sean, the weapons expert. Some google searching revealed that he's a regular hollywood consultant, including jobs with Pirates II and III. It really looks more like he's a buddy of the producer of Pawn Stars rather than a buddy of Rick's. Now, that's not to say that he hasn't become a friend of Rick's, but our guess was that he's being paid by the show's producers. I'm guessing the others are too, but at least the two listed in Las Vegas and the curator of the Clark County Museum were probably brought in by Rick rather than by the History Channel people.

    Meet the Pawn Stars Experts
     
  12. Mar 2, 2010 #132 of 406
    Unbeliever

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    Ok, now they've gone and done something on Monday's "bid for the fortune teller" machine episode that makes me want to cancel the SP.

    An in show commercial scripted to look like a conversation. Complete with catch phrase and product fondling.

    --Carlos V.
     
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    CraigK

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    That product placement section was pretty blatant.

    I imagine all the other "customers" in that scene were probably pawn shop employees or worked for Subway.
     
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    Neenahboy

    Neenahboy Statistical outlier TCF Club

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    5.1 million viewers Monday, and History's already eyeing two spinoffs...

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ibe85493aa8b41330a367d3484eb0ca40
     
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    omnibus

    omnibus cowboy, yee-ha

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    Hey "Subway" is an official sponsor of the show, what's the problem. Let's make free TV a donate system, maybe a tithe based on your income like the Catholic church.
     
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    pmyers

    pmyers Active Member

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    Wow...that Subway commercial was REALLY bad...I expected Chum Lee to break out into that damnsong!
     
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    Unbeliever

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    They already have commercial breaks. Let them use those. I don't mind commercials, I mind obtrusiveness. The more annoying and in-your-face the advertisement is, the less likely I will buy or patronize. They present themselves as a reality show. If it's reality, ask yourself how often you say, "give me back my 5-dollar footlong!"? You don't. I bet you say, "give me back my sandwich!".

    If they had just set it in the Store, with no product fondling and twisting the conversation so that they could utter catch-phrases, and just let the environment speak for itself, I wouldn't have minded.

    --Carlos V.
     
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    JLucPicard

    JLucPicard Active Member TCF Club

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    I bet it made you stop the FF, right? Get used to it, I think these will become much more prevalent in the DVR vs. Ad Dollar wars.
     
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    janry

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    Didn't look so good to me. In fact, I was turned off. I think product placement is cool and enjoy discovering it in shows, but that sammich didn't look so good.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2010 #140 of 406
    twentyfive

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    I half-way expect to walk into a Subway and see the new Pawn Stars meatball sammich, complete with big fat greasy hand prints baked right into the bread.

    It is only a matter of time before there is a cross promotion with Jared Fogel, Corey and Chumlee. If those two guys lost 100 lbs each, they would still be too big, IMO.

    The show used to be enjoyable, now I can't ignore the fact that it is completely staged.
     

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