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Anybody want to explain Usenet to me like I'm seven?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by cheesesteak, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Feb 14, 2013 #861 of 1662
    MikeMar

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    Color me a newb on this, so when a download fails (x number of repair blocks failed, or whatever it says).

    What are the ways to fix this, or is the file "dead" and should try a different one?
    The only way I know how to fix this is to download another nzb file and retry w/ that one, but that never works, as it still comes from the same provider right?
     
  2. Feb 14, 2013 #862 of 1662
    DUDE_NJX

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    You may want to do a raw search for additional par files
     
  3. Feb 14, 2013 #863 of 1662
    MikeMar

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    Stupid question and pretty sure I know the answer. So I get the dozen or whatever missing par files, just download those into the folder and then I can unrar them and be all set?
     
  4. Feb 14, 2013 #864 of 1662
    Peter000

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    You run the main par file, and it will check and fix the Rar files... I'm not sure if all RAR programs recognize Par files. On my Mac I have a special program that does that.
     
  5. Feb 14, 2013 #865 of 1662
    Malcontent

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    Also, you might consider getting a backup server. Usually a block account. There is a chance that you backup server might allow you to complete such files in the future. You would configure the usenet block account as a backup server in your usenet client.

    Make sure your backup server is from a different back end provider then your primary. If you use Highwinds as your primary don't use a Highwinds reseller as your backup, ect.
     
  6. Feb 14, 2013 #866 of 1662
    laria

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    I have never been able to successfully repair a file that failed, even before Astraweb started doing the automated takedowns. I have Astraweb as my primary and Blocknews as the backup.
     
  7. Feb 14, 2013 #867 of 1662
    KungFuCow

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    Ive switched over to Usenetnow as my primary. Im using usenetserver as my backup now. As soon as my usenetserver subscription expires, Im going to just stick with usenetnow. Ive been really happen with the retention and completeness.
     
  8. Feb 15, 2013 #868 of 1662
    MikeMar

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    Thanks, I'll look into that

    I have Blocknews and Astraweb as a backup, so maybe I should get a SECOND backup block account?

    I'll try a few manual repairs first and see if that works
     
  9. Feb 15, 2013 #869 of 1662
    SnakeVargas

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    It has been a while for me. What is the primary methodology when using the usenet today? Is it:

    1) To download all of the metadata such as message headers from a newsgroup into your software on your local computer and use the software to search and pick what to download, or is it

    2) To use a usenet search site and create an NZB from what you are interested in and then import the NZB into your software, or is it

    3) To use one of these torrent-over-usenet things

    With servers having longer and longer retention and piles of metadata to download I would think that 1) is becoming less practical.
     
  10. Feb 15, 2013 #870 of 1662
    Ment

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    If by 3) you mean an nzb index site that would be the answer.
     
  11. Feb 15, 2013 #871 of 1662
    SnakeVargas

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    This sounds closer to what I meant by 2). Are these sites hosting NZB files that people upload? or are these NZBs being generated on the fly by search queries? I'm not exactly familiar with what an nzb index site is. My usenet experience tapered off about the time that NZB hit the scene.

    By 3) I mean the there was some bittorrent site I would go to that would always have a link "download this torrent from the usenet with UseNext". I never clicked it, so I don't know what it did.
     
  12. Feb 15, 2013 #872 of 1662
    Ment

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    A nzb index site is organized much like torrent site. Most are grouped in categories TV, Movies,Apps, Music and on some XXX and you can also search within it. You choose the nzb you want and it downloads to your default or designated local folder where your nzb client like SabNzbd picks it up and downloads the blocks. Most nzb index sites use NewzNab software as their backend which pulls headers from the groups the site owner designates and auto-creates the nzbs as well has the default interface for those who use the index site.
     
  13. Feb 15, 2013 #873 of 1662
    modelgame

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    why are nzb sites getting shut down lately? I mean they aren't hosting any files other than the nzb files.

    Well either way I'm in love with usenet and haven't used anything since. Newshosting is my favorite usenet provider. cheap and awesome
     
  14. Feb 16, 2013 #874 of 1662
    SnakeVargas

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    They are hosting metadata pointing to the chunks that comprise the pirated content. They would be harassed for the same reason that torrent sites are.
     
  15. Feb 16, 2013 #875 of 1662
    Fofer

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    Since what? Usenet was around well before BitTorrent :p
     
  16. Feb 17, 2013 #876 of 1662
    bengalfreak

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    Anyone have any suggestions for a new block usenet server source? I was using Astraweb, but it seems that they are taking things down rather quickly now. I don't really want a monthly fee. Astraweb was great while it lasted. 1000 GB for $50 would get me a whole year of downloads.
     
  17. Feb 17, 2013 #877 of 1662
    Peter000

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    I'm using News Demon. It's pretty good.
     
  18. Feb 17, 2013 #878 of 1662
    DUDE_NJX

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    Is Frugal Usenet crazy slow for anyone else too this afternoon?
     
  19. Feb 17, 2013 #879 of 1662
    The Spud

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    NewsDemon is a Highwinds reseller so that would not help with the takedown issue.

    Blocknews is supposed to be pretty good in this regards.

    My basic strategy is to get a 1 TB block from Newsgroup Direct (a Highwinds reseller) on Terabyte Tuesday for $40, and then I've bought smaller blocks from Astraweb & Blocknews to use as backup if needed.
     
  20. Feb 18, 2013 #880 of 1662
    Ment

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    Blocknews, Usenetnow & Frugal Usenet are the same entity. Not having any problems on Usenetnow yesterday or today.
     

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