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Anybody want to explain Usenet to me like I'm seven?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by cheesesteak, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Jan 4, 2013 #761 of 1681
    Fofer

    Fofer XenForo Rocks!

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    Some torrent clients let you turn off uploading (or limit it to 0 or 1 KB/s.) At least with xTorrent on the Mac, if you try to set it to 0, you get this:

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  2. Jan 4, 2013 #762 of 1681
    newsposter

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    ah yes, thats it, if you turn off UL your DL speed suffers. i cant have that! one great thing about my slow DSL speed is i doubt anyone ever cares what i d/l nor monitors it



    are you talking about something like anonymizer.com?
     
  3. Jan 4, 2013 #763 of 1681
    SeanC

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    Using a VPN doesn't hurt my DL speed at all. I DL well seeded torrents at full speed through my VPN service.
     
  4. Jan 4, 2013 #764 of 1681
    NetJunkie

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    What speed is that?
     
  5. Jan 4, 2013 #765 of 1681
    SeanC

    SeanC ECT

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    3 MBps
     
  6. Jan 4, 2013 #766 of 1681
    Wil

    Wil Senile Member

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    Understand that uploading (and torrenting is uploading) is beyond any understanding as to what might be legally permissible.

    Downloading? Lots of grey area that might keep you out of jail or allow you to escape huge fines, for some material. Soon your ISP may cancel your account, but that's another issue.

    Don't upload.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2013 #767 of 1681
    Fofer

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    I'm confused by your contributions here. Who are you passing the information to, "further propagating the targets?" You're calling pirates "miscreants" while claiming to have been part of the "scene" years ago yourself. You're giving warnings as well as advice, but it seems a bit, I dunno, veiled and angry. I'm just confused about your personal angle here.

    FWIW, I'm not a BitTorrent user and the few times I've used Usenet it was for discussion, and non-copyrighted materials.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2013 #768 of 1681
    DUDE_NJX

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    Yeah, the Linux distros take up about 12TB on my server too...;)
     
  9. Jan 4, 2013 #769 of 1681
    Wil

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    Free speech: you'll not find a stronger proponent than I. Plus I'm a techie and love this stuff. But much of the activity discussed here (not all, Betamax et. al. prevails) is contrary to law and reprehensible. I'd like to see a raid and mass arrests and fines of many of you.

    But I will never rat out anyone here or elsewhere in free discussion. Never.

    The issue raised was my quoting direct exchanges, and thus further propagating to authorities the illegal activities. Yeah, I'll do that. Name a specific and If I decide to respond to your post I may well include in my response, as a quote, that specific.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2013 #770 of 1681
    NetJunkie

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    Raids and arrest? Wow. :) Pretty harsh for what is essentially time shifting.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2013 #771 of 1681
    Hoffer

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    I use usenet a lot, but my conscious is clear on most of the stuff. I know what I'm doing is still wrong. When the raid Wil orders on my house happens, I know I would be deserving of it.

    I usually download Howard Stern's radio show, even though I pay for Sirius. I like the convenience of having the MP3 of the show. I don't want to miss any of the show, versus listening live and missing parts when I have a meeting or whatever. Granted I skip past most commercials, but oh well.

    The Sirius app for smartphones has gotten better where you can listen to the last 6 hours or so. This still kinda blows because you can't really skip around very well. If you lose connection, then you've got to start from the beginning of the show or one of the few skip points Sirius puts in. If they made this app just a little better, I'd probably never download the show off usenet.

    The thing I wanted to download the other day was Boardwalk Empire's last season. I've been paying for HBO the last 6 months or so. I even had the season on my DVR, but I wanted to delete it to free up some space. I'm going to cancel HBO for a while and I'll just have to watch the show off HBO GO when I subscribe to HBO in a couple months when True Blood comes back. I should just upgrade to the new DirecTV DVR with the bigger hard drive. Then I wouldn't have to worry about space.

    I did the same thing for Dexter. I subscribed to Showtime while Dexter was airing, but got the show off usenet because I'm a couple seasons behind on the show. Showtime just recently added DirecTV to be eligible for their version of HBO GO. So, I could just use it in the future to watch this stuff. I could probably also rent the Blu-rays of the show off Netflix. Assuming it is on Netflix.

    I do think it is wrong all the people that download Game of Thrones off the internet just because they refuse to pay for cable and/or HBO. The only reason these great shows get made is if people pay for them. So, I always pay for the premium channels when a show is on I like, even if I'm not going to watch until 9 months later off usenet downloads.

    I also usenet stuff from the UK. For a long time I did it because there was no other way for me to get it in HD. BBCA is HD now on DirecTV, but I still do it for certain shows that I don't want to wait weeks for them to come to BBCA. The BBC is getting better with this though. I think that recent series Copper was broadcast in the US the same day as the UK. If they always did that, I'd never usenet a UK show.
     
  12. Jan 4, 2013 #772 of 1681
    Wil

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    There is much defense from (as I mentioned) the Betamax time shifting decision and its descendants. Complicated. I give you folks a lot of latitude at that end, though the industry as a whole would not and they have equally if not more valid arguments.

    I start from the other end. The sources you pirates are using include cams, screeners and other types of copies of movies in current release. Manufacture an excuse for supporting that, if you can. Other movies released direct to video.

    TV shows on cable channels or premium cable channels downloaded by those who have not paid for those channels, is that time shifting?

    But the bottom line is DMCA, which trumps fair use and all. Sure, DMCA was bought and paid for in bribes, but it is the law of the land. Virtually all the activity so explicitly described in this thread violates that law.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2013 #773 of 1681
    NetJunkie

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    You sure do lump a lot of stuff together there. No one here is talking about screeners. We're in a forum about TV shows on a site dedicated to a popular DVR. As I said...I haven't "cut the cord" on my TV. I still pay for the channels...I just prefer to use my own interface and not that of TiVo or the cable DVR.

    Others do as they do. Don't lump everything together. Not to mention, civil disobedience for laws people don't agree with and understand the consequences.
     
  14. Jan 4, 2013 #774 of 1681
    Fofer

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    To what "authorities" are you forwarding these quotes (and this information,) and have they corresponded back with you?
     
  15. Jan 4, 2013 #775 of 1681
    vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I haven't downloaded a cam, tc, ts, r5 or screener in years (when I was poor). We go to the movies and spend tons of money when the movie comes out now that I have money to do so. Prior to that, I just wouldn't have seen or supported the movies in any way because I couldn't afford to, so they didn't exactly lose anything. I honestly feel that they gained from me.

    I only download now for convenience, everything I download is available fully legally with only more hassle to me so I probably wouldn't bother at all in that case. I have DirecTV with all premium channels, I pay for Netflix, I am an Amazon prime member. They all get their money from me.
     
  16. Jan 4, 2013 #776 of 1681
    Hoffer

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    This is exactly me.

    The people who bother me are the people that brag they are "cord cutters" and then download half the stuff they watch off bit torrent or usenet.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2013 #777 of 1681
    innocentfreak

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    This always gets me also. If you read reddit.com/r/cordcutters, it is all people cutting the cord and then asking how to get the shows for free. That isn't cordcutting imho.

    Cordcutting is about quitting cable and getting all your content through Netflix, Amazon, Itunes, Hulu, etc not ditching and downloading.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2013 #778 of 1681
    vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Heck a lot the stuff I download is freely available OTA, I wouldn't watch commercials either way.
     
  19. Jan 4, 2013 #779 of 1681
    Wil

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    No, no; no. No.
    No.
    The post I'm referring to said that by quoting I was further publicizing, basically. My answer is yes. By quoting. Here. I don't rat out anybody, but I will be glad to quote and thus increase the exposure.
    Here.
    Quote. Here. Forward? No. Here. Quote. Here.
    Here.
     
  20. Jan 4, 2013 #780 of 1681
    Malcontent

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    I was being sarcastic when I pointed it out. I couldn't care less what you quote.
     

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