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Anybody want to explain Usenet to me like I'm seven?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by cheesesteak, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Jan 3, 2013 #741 of 1642
    vertigo235

    vertigo235 Active Member TCF Club

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    Or you could technically get sued like those poor people did several years ago by the RIAA.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2013 #742 of 1642
    vertigo235

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    I don't really see the point of SSL, I really doubt the copyright police are going to be sniffing my packets.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2013 #743 of 1642
    pteronaut

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    I wouldn't be too sure about that.

    ISPs & tracking company ready to start anti piracy scheme [Torrent Freak].
    Copyright Scofflaws Beware: ISPs to Begin Monitoring Illicit File Sharing [Wired]
    Internet providers to begin warning customers who pirate content [CNN]

    Mark Monitor were due to start snooping in November, but delayed the operation due to Hurricane Sandy.

    Whilst BitTorrent is mentioned, there's no knowing that Mark Monitor won't be looking at data coming from Usenet, or out of a seedbox either.
     
  4. Jan 3, 2013 #744 of 1642
    johnh123

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    Over there
    Users are not likely to get in trouble when downloading from Usenet. It is only when you start sharing, as with bit torrent, or posting to usenet, that you get in trouble.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2013 #745 of 1642
    vertigo235

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    I just find it extremely unlikely they would bother with sniffing USENET downloading, but it's certainly possible.

    I could always turn on SSL, it just runs slower (at least on my Synology downlaods) so I have it off.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2013 #746 of 1642
    LoadStar

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    That's my working understanding. They're worried about the people doing the sharing or uploading. The people downloading are small fish - you might get a letter and a slap on the wrist, but that's about it. They want to stop the distribution of the files more than anything else.

    (They're not going to be able to, of course. They can't stop the signal.)
     
  7. Jan 3, 2013 #747 of 1642
    DUDE_NJX

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    I constantly get 60 Mbps with SSL on.
     
  8. Jan 3, 2013 #748 of 1642
    vertigo235

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    Either it's my provider maybe their SSL server is slower, or my synology disk station doesn't like it, but it defiantly makes a difference on mine.

    It's probably the provider though.

    Maybe I'll give it another try, it's certainly preferable if there is no loss of speed.
     
  9. Jan 3, 2013 #749 of 1642
    Pralix

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    Anyone know of a USENET hosting provider that has a good completion record? I am using Newshosting and it is getting ridiculous with the number of incomplete files due to DCMA takedowns.
     
  10. Jan 3, 2013 #750 of 1642
    vertigo235

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    I use a combo of easynews and blocknews and I haven't seen any issues with in-completions.

    Then again I don't do much backlogging. I was pleased to see on that map that someone posted the other day that those two providers I use are on different backbones apparently.
     
  11. Jan 3, 2013 #751 of 1642
    bareyb

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    Sounds ominous unless you are in Australia. I don't like where this is going...

    And once again the copyright holders miss the point. They'd rather beat us into submission instead of being reasonable and listening to WHY this is such a problem. If they made the stuff available at a fair price in a reasonable amount of time, a huge percentage of the pirating would stop. I can say for myself, that the ONLY time I download a TV show is when there is no other legitimate way to get it. I'd happily pay a few bucks. In fact, just last night I purchased the first four eps of Top Chef from Amazon.
     
  12. Jan 3, 2013 #752 of 1642
    laria

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    This is how I use Usenet... I've mentioned a few times we have/had a Tivo with a dying drive and kept getting corrupted shows that could not be played. I offloaded as much as I could from it but any shows with bad blocks would not download and I had to fill in holes from Usenet.

    Judging by this thread, though, this is not the way that a lot of people are using it.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2013 #753 of 1642
    Malcontent

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    SABnzbd 0.7.8 has been released

    Features

    Use "category" and "password" meta-data in NZB files (Provided by some indexers)

    Option to abort download when it is clear that not enough data is available (For removed posts it will be faster than pre-download check)

    Add "Abort" option for encryption detection

    Removed articles are now listed separately in download report

    Special option "wait_for_dfolder", enables waiting for external temp download folder at startup

    Bug fixes
    Fix problem with %fn substitution in Sorting
    Pre-download check did not work with all servers
    Fix missing Retry link for "Out of retention" jobs
    API function "addfile" now accepts "nzbname" parameter for ZIP/RAR files with one NZB
    Prevent retries when an NZB with just samples is retrieved from an indexer (and you had the "do not download samples" option enabled)
     
  14. Jan 4, 2013 #754 of 1642
    newsposter

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    does anyone pay for an anonymizer?

    unfortunately from what i gather, at least from utorrent, is if you download, you must upload at the same time. i guess thats where people who have comcast get warnings ?
     
  15. Jan 4, 2013 #755 of 1642
    brettatk

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    Yes. But not just Comcast, from practically any ISP. I got a few of these emails and it's what ultimately made me switch from torrents to usenet.
     
  16. Jan 4, 2013 #756 of 1642
    NetJunkie

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    Hard to anonymize torrent traffic. All you can do is go through a hop in the middle via VPN or other means which really hurts your speed. Another option is a seed box in another country but that breaks a lot of my automation.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2013 #757 of 1642
    Wil

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    Pretty much impossible to be safe with torrents. I'm mostly out of the business 2-3 years but torrents were easy. SSL certainly hid the content from your ISP (in other ways transparent), but both endpoints were logged so WTF? VPN is vulnerable by multiple techniques, MIM, etc. Hey, let's talk Tor, the ultimate flypaper trap!

    Seed box? I've read a little about that but it didn't register. Have you pirates found something that will keep you safe from heavy fines/jail? I doubt it.
     
  18. Jan 4, 2013 #758 of 1642
    NetJunkie

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    My monthly cable bill clears my guilty conscious for being a "pirate". ;)

    No one downloading torrents is getting heavy jail time. Or heavy fines. Especially now with the multi-warning system most ISPs are doing. Plenty of warning.

    But anyway... A seedbox is just a simple server sitting somewhere else. Usually on a high speed network at a colocation center. You run your torrent client from that. It's not on your ISP. It's often in another country. And it's on a fast connection so you can upload and download quickly.
     
  19. Jan 4, 2013 #759 of 1642
    Wil

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    Thanks. I'm sure that was well known by people more current than I, but I'll pass it on. If there are any subsequent posts here quoting specifics I'll be glad to quote them and thus further propagate the targets.
     
  20. Jan 4, 2013 #760 of 1642
    Malcontent

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