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Anybody want to explain Usenet to me like I'm seven?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by cheesesteak, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. Jan 1, 2013 #721 of 1642
    Azlen

    Azlen Active Member

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    If your backup was from the same backbone as your main then what is gone from one will more than likely be gone from both. It's best to have them from different backbones.
     
  2. Jan 1, 2013 #722 of 1642
    MikeMar

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    Yes, I was saying if you had the different backbones :D
     
  3. Jan 1, 2013 #723 of 1642
    Hoffer

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    I have used usenetserver as my usenet provider for years. Probably around 10 years or so. If anyone finds a provider that doesn't have to abide by DMCA takedowns, let me know. :)
     
  4. Jan 1, 2013 #724 of 1642
    Malcontent

    Malcontent Aka: Smiling Bob

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    No such animal. There are some that are slower to respond.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2013 #725 of 1642
    Carlucci

    Carlucci Hiding The Decline

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    Anyone trying DC++ as an alternative to usenet? I've installed it, but I don't know enough about it to know what I'm doing. Maybe we need a "Anybody want to explain DC++...." topic.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2013 #726 of 1642
    LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Yeah, no thanks... part of why I use Usenet is because I don't generally trust peer-to-peer networks.
     
  7. Jan 2, 2013 #727 of 1642
    Wil

    Wil Senile Member

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    [EDITED TO ADD: Malcontent's response that there is no such animal is incorrect. Seek and ye shall find.]

    There are many countries that do not voluntarily require their providers to abide by DMCA which, after all, is a U.S. law and not a new Commandment from God. However, other countries typically have their own similar takedown procedures. There are variables. Speed and thoroughness of takedowns are two.

    The problem most of you pirates are facing are due to the speed and automated nature of the takedowns. Providers do not want to spend the money to handle takedown requests one at a time and make any judgement of their validity. They are allowed 48 hours to respond and have the right to contest any takedown request that is not, for example, from a legitimate rights holder of the specific work. A huge number of the requests are invalid. But providers are not making judgements, they are, typically, immediately and automatically implementing the takedowns, including requests from frivolous sources.

    It is one of the most humorous spectacles in internet history. Copyright violator disreputables being thwarted by equally disreputable forces on the other side. In one case a massive former pirate, busted, shut down and turned, gleefully harassing his former colleagues and users. There is not enough popcorn.
     
  8. Jan 2, 2013 #728 of 1642
    Malcontent

    Malcontent Aka: Smiling Bob

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    Your not tell us pirates anything we didn't already know.
     
  9. Jan 2, 2013 #729 of 1642
    bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    Yeah. It's still pretty much the Wild Wild West out there. There's a lot of talk from Governments about leaving the Internet alone, but as we've seen that's not happening. Amzon is charging Tax now for instance, so the Govt. can and will get in the mix at some point. Personally, I think we'll see the end of the present forms of free copyrighted downloads in the next five years or so. It's already happening. So enjoy while you can!

    The next step for the truly determined, will probably be VPN's or some other method that is harder to stop. At some point if the Govt. wants to stop it outright, they'll have to pass laws and start "governing" the Internet. Then we'll all sigh, and tell our grandkids how cool the Internet used to be. :D
     
  10. Jan 2, 2013 #730 of 1642
    innocentfreak

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    I have definitely heard rumors of one, but haven't really looked into it.

    If my TiVo messes up a recording and I can't get a show, it is easier just to drop the show completely especially when the networks don't make it easy to view. It wouldn't be the first time it has happened much like with CBS and Sunday night shows.
     
  11. Jan 2, 2013 #731 of 1642
    bareyb

    bareyb Under Maintenance TCF Club

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    Well and that's the other thing I'm hopeful about. It would make a LOT of sense for these copyright holders to make this stuff easily available for download and charge a reasonable price for it. I'd happily pay a few bucks to get a show I've missed. In fact, that's usually the first thing I try if I miss a show. I look at Xfinity On Demand first, then I check Amazon and iTunes. If they aren't there, I either give up or check out Usenet.
     
  12. Jan 2, 2013 #732 of 1642
    Malcontent

    Malcontent Aka: Smiling Bob

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    Tweaknews most likely.
     
  13. Jan 2, 2013 #733 of 1642
    Wil

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    Nice move, putting the target sign on their back.
     
  14. Jan 2, 2013 #734 of 1642
    Malcontent

    Malcontent Aka: Smiling Bob

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    Their name has already been mention on several high profile public usenet related forums for quite awhile now. They were talked about on Nzbmatrix forums. I don't think mentioning it on this forum is going to make a difference. The genie is out of the bottle.

    Nice move, you quoted the name. Your reply confirmed it.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2013 #735 of 1642
    Wil

    Wil Senile Member

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    I have no problem with the miscreants' names being mentioned in a popular forum and the illegal activity being shut down, but I'm not the type of person who would go out of my way to mention specific names.

    Rat out a few more, though, and I'll be happy to further the cause by quoting you.
     
  16. Jan 2, 2013 #736 of 1642
    Malcontent

    Malcontent Aka: Smiling Bob

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    For someone who appears to disagree with this type of activity you are quite knowledgeable about it. More so then some who are actively involved. That's not meant as an insult. I only wish more people in the community were as knowledgeable.
     
  17. Jan 3, 2013 #737 of 1642
    newsposter

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    i admittedly cant remember last time i used usenet....i think ATT/ prodigy stopped them years ago (i'm assuming usenet = newsgroups)


    regarding peer to peer, if that includes torrents then i can say ive never had a problem with them. maybe having defender/spybot/malwarebytes/anvir/adaware etc has kept me from harm, or maybe i dont d/l things that could be dangerous, but ive never had a bad torrent experience (that i'm aware of at least)
     
  18. Jan 3, 2013 #738 of 1642
    NetJunkie

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    I'm not worried about malware on media torrents (nothing to execute)..it just puts you out there where you can get a nasty letter from your ISP or the media company.
     
  19. Jan 3, 2013 #739 of 1642
    laria

    laria Librocubicularist

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    Yes, this. We have gotten 2 letters from Comcast over the years about torrents.
     
  20. Jan 3, 2013 #740 of 1642
    Kamakzie

    Kamakzie Are you serious bro?

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    You wouldn't want to use Usenet that comes with your internet provider. You'd want to get it separate from someone other provider. SSL protocol is the best IMO.
     

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