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Any way to tell Roamio to auto tune HD channels?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by anthonymoody, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    I haven't been a TWC manhattan customer for a long time, but to the best of my recollection this auto mapping behavior is standard on their HD DVR boxes as well. You tune 7 but it pulls in 707 behind the scenes.

    My guess is that whatever signal is sent that tells the box/cc to do this must happen in the hdmi handshake. That's the main thing that's missing when you plug your cable card directly into your set. Can't be sure but probably something like that. And likely no way for you to undo this.

    Choice indeed would be nice (as I originally requested).
     
  2. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    Because your tv tuner scans available frequencies to find channels and uses it's analog tuner to show 2-99. Cablecard devices (just like cable company provided boxes) get mapping from the cable headend. There is no way around this requirement. Otherwise you would not have any guide data.
     
  3. Bphagan

    Bphagan brettdog

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    I decided a while ago to just use the guide to find my channels.
    I know about where in the list the channel I want is located, ie Locals around 431+,
    ESPNs near 400, etc.
    Pressing guide and channel up/down doesn't take me long to find a channel.
    Besides, it gives me a chance to see what else is on.
    If it was important that I knew the channel, it would have been set to record.

    This is what has worked for me. Everyone is different. I had to learn some new habits when I switched from Dish to Tivo 3.5 years ago when Tivo was lacking a number of features that Dish had then.

    I wish there was a way to create a custom ordering for the channels.
    I would like to have the sports channels together, movie channels together, local channels together, etc. Comcast spreads them out and alphabetical or numerical listing don't work good, but I work with what I have.

    bdog
     
  4. swerver

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    It's not perfect but try the "What's on now" menu item on the roamio. Like the guide, but grouped by tv shows, movies, sports, and kids. Nice for finding a college football game for instance, when you don't know what channel it's on. I didn't think I'd like it at first but I find myself using it more than the guide lately.
     
  5. k2ue

    k2ue Retired RF Engineer

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    The new TW channel schemes implement auto HD selection. We just switched over here in Rochester NY in the 15th. Even if you just enter the analog channel number, like 7, 8, 10, 11 or 13 here on a strictly digital TiVo -- you get the HD version of the channel. And all the channels that previously existed as separate SD and HD version now map to single channel number that provides HD to TiVo's. So it looks like the cable companies are solving the problem for us.
     
  6. SugarBowl

    SugarBowl Member

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    Same here. The TiVo info banner shows 1080i or 720p, although there is no HD logo in the show description.
     
  7. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    That is because of the guide data showing the channel as the non-digital version. I would report it to Tribune. If the HD channel is being mapped for all users, then Tribune should update their digital lineup to reflect that.
     
  8. k2ue

    k2ue Retired RF Engineer

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    The Guide is not exactly wrong -- if you have a free "Digital Adapter" from TW my understanding is it provides an SD picture to SD sets down to the Basic Cable level. They are preparing to kill the Analog channels altogether and map everybody to the Digital channels.
     
  9. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    Does the digital adapter provide channels other than 2-99? Tribune usually has two lineups one for analog and one for digital.
     
  10. Bphagan

    Bphagan brettdog

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    swerver,
    You're right, not perfect or close.
    Fine for looking at what's already playing, but not for upcoming, like shows starting within the hour.
    Would have been nice to be able to create your own custom listing, but that is probably a large programming task and not going to happen.
    bdog
     
  11. rhettf

    rhettf R3T1CAL

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    I can see why the auto HD feature can be useful for some but its probably not a priority for TiVo since it would require a whole new channel mapping layer for EVERY market. Its easier for your comcast northern california corporation to do it since they are only worrying about the channel numbers in their market. Giving us the option would be nice...but personally one of my favorite features of the TiVo has been that I can remove every SD Channel from my lineup. Now when I go to guide I don't have to hit additional buttons AND TiVo suggestions will only record HD shows (there might be a new way to do it but I have always used this method).

    In the bay area none of the HD channel numbers have changed dramatically, they conveniently start in the 700 and go to 840. In my opinion the easiest thing is to get rid of SD channels from your guide so the TiVo only records HD and after about a month you'll remember your favorite channel numbers...or you'll just start adding more SP. I still don't know what channel FX, USA, TNT, Comedy Central, HGTV, Food Network, or any basic HD channel are. I just record stuff and let the TiVo do all the heavy lifting.

    When guest come over and use the TV they have no issues, maybe its because people in my age group 20-30 have never actually paid attention to channel numbers regardless and just look on the guide for the channel name.

    Either way its down to the user, I can see how its more convenient for some but change isn't a bad thing, typing in 702 instead of 2 is just muscle memory after a month anyway.
     
  12. obeythelaw2004

    obeythelaw2004 Member

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    Seeing this thread makes me really wish Tivo had this feature. Back when I was with Directv, if I hit my local CBS channel which is Channel 2, it automatically when to the HD feed. Even my Verizon Fios box I had at least had the option that if you were tuned into an SD channel, all you had to do was press the "C" button and it automatically would go to the HD channel. Sometimes its not a matter of not remembering the channels but sometimes I don't know if a channel was in HD or not.
    Another question, also, is does Tivo let you set the settings to record to always record just in HD on the HD channel?
     
  13. leiff

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  14. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    At a second apiece (and it doesn't take longer on most cable systems, though its possible some might intersperse all HD and SD channels), 500 channels is less than 10 minutes. That has to be done once, and you never have to worry about them again (unless you get a total renumbering like TimeWarner has just done). That's worth it to me; most folks posting in this thread have probably spent longer reading and writing all the posts!
     
  15. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Exactly, you only do it once and it's not that big a deal. Solves other problems too like Wishlists recording from SD channels instead of the HDs you want.
     

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