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Any way to tell Roamio to auto tune HD channels?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by anthonymoody, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. fdisker2000

    fdisker2000 New Member

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    I know this isn't exactly what the op was looking for but I use a Harmony Ultimate remote for this. It is easily programmed with icons for my family to select the HD channels.
     

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  2. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    I fully comprehended your posts, what feature you wanted and posted my opinion re: the likelihood of it being implemented. If you don't want 'unsolicited opinions' don't read them.

    Next time, ask a question whether a certain feature of your cable company's DVR is available on a TiVo before you purchase one instead of complaining about its absence afterwards.
     
  3. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    With all the bickering and arguing, I guess nobody bothered to read my post about how this is actually available and happening on some systems.

    Whatever.
     
  4. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Same here, this is a typical PEBCAK problem and should be at the bottom of the long list of stuff that Tivo should do IMO.
     
  5. cypherstream

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    Hi, I came here from a Google search asking this very question. I knew older Tivo's couldn't do this, but was hoping the new Roamio could.

    I currently have DirecTV and love how you type in the number for ESPN for example and it shows it in HD. You type in 3 for CBS here and it's right there in HD. This is the default option. In the settings you can choose "show SD duplicates" and then SD and HD equivalents are next to each other. Other options are "Hide HD Duplicates" and "Hide SD Duplicates (default)".

    I never have to change this setting and I'm not missing out on any programming. I always keep an eye on the local cable co but their DVR stinks. It's just low end Motorola or Pace DVR's running I-Guide and they do not offer multiroom or any way to remotely program the DVR from the net or control it via a tablet / iPhone. So TiVo Roamio would be the way to go. But since this feature doesn't exist (yet), I will stick with DirecTV. Was always a problem with the wife or guests. It's always a problem at my inlaws who have cable. I swear they only watch HD when I visit. They have TWC and only about 15 channels or so "auto tune" to HD. They just do the local networks, ESPN, CNN, and the premium movie channels. Father in law watches a lot of NFL Network but that is one that TWC doesn't remap. So they end up watching a lot of SD still.

    I wish we were to the point where SD would just go away. A channel should just be HD these days. HD should now be the de facto standard. They don't even sell tube TV's anymore. Heck our township won't let us throw CRT's away anymore. We have to take them to a special recycling center. Can't leave the old boob tube at the curb anymore. Point is TV's have evolved, so why haven't the broadcast standard? I'm sure cable could save a few QAM channels by eliminating the SD feeds.

    TWC can do it. DirecTV and Dish Network can do it. Passport / Passport Echo cable software can do it. Buckeye cable HD-DTA's do it. Xfinity X1 does it. It is becoming more common, just not fast enough for my liking.
     
  6. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    How come when I press the 9 button on my remote, pictures of naked ladies don't magically appear?

    Oh that's right, because channel 9 is an analog channel, which my digital receiver doesn't get. But I want it to magically map to another unrelated channel that isn't the channel button I pressed.

    Maybe I'm too stupid to use a TV.
     
  7. MScottC

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    Sure, it's cool idea, but I have yet to meet a piece of equipment that does EVERYTHING I'd like it to do. The problem is that if you accommodate every possibility, you create bloatware. So hardware/software providers put in what they believe are the most desirable features and choices. Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they get it wrong. If they get it right more than they get it wrong, they succeed. But you'll always get whining losers who will find all the wrongs and never feel good about all the right on what is a good or even great product to the majority of users. This seems to be the case here. TiVo created a great product category. Some of the products in the line had problems, but over the years, they keep delivering mostly good product, and in the case of Roamio, it's bordering on great. Are there issues, sure. Are there things that need to be fixed, sure. But the product works as advertised quite well, and it adds incredible functionality to the point I was at before this purchase.

    And one more note to the original poster. Stop whining when someone opines about something you post about. Put me in the camp with everyone else; the moment you post on a public forum, you open up the thread to every user's opinion. If you don't like it, don't read it, but if you start the conversation, others are entitled to join it as they see fit, as long as they don't abuse others.
     
  8. socrplyr

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    This is really a function of the Cable Operator. They choose the channels for their stations. Like you mention DirecTV decided to handle it differently than the cable operators. In reality, there is a simple solution for the cable operators. For HD devices: When they offer channel 2 in HD, put the HD on channel 2. (If they still want to make the SD available, then put the SD on channel 2002. This would really just be a power user function to make smaller recordings anyways.) For SD devices: Don't map HD channels at all and leave the SD version at the lower numbers (channel 2 would be SD in this case).

    If Tivo were to give an option to remap channels, that would be a support nightmare and the cable companies would not be very happy. Tivo needs to keep them reasonably happy as it isn't a great relationship to begin with. Also, that remapping would have to be a somewhat manual process (could be partially automated, but not completely). That costs money and there are a lot of cable operators and different channel lineups out there.
     
  9. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    You've got to be kidding.
     
  10. cypherstream

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    Nope. I'm happy with DirecTV. Has all the content I want. We always record HD and watch HD when it's available. It's MPEG4 so it takes less space on the hard drive. Genie can record 5 things at once and has PIP. When you threaten to leave DirecTV, they give you huge discounts on the bill.

    But the local cable co has good HD content as well, even more HD like Reelz, the CSPAN's, HSN, The Hub HD, and a handful of others. However if life is good with DirecTV and moving to Tivo on Cable would make a huge learning curve for the wife and guests, then might as well not make the switch. I just really came here to find out if this new Tivo has this option. Since I'm happy with my provider and Tivo does not (neither does my cable co) then no point in the hassle of switching. I'll keep my eye on the technology though just in case.

    Some people say they want a certain channel. Well its the content. If you want NBC, CBS, ESPN, ABC, Disney, HBO, Discovery, Science, Bravo, E!, DIY, etc... you see that content you wanted, just in HD... every time with auto tune HD. If I want DIY and go to DIY I see it in HD. If my father in law wants DIY and types the number for DIY he see's it in SD because the HD version is on some weird number that has no correspondence to the SD number on his cable company issued DVR.
     
  11. dsnotgood

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    No offense OP but that is a dumb request. If I tell a cable box to do something, it should do it and not do what it "thinks" I want to do (tune to HD channel instead of sd).

    Just because your old cable box did it doesn't mean it's good.

    Also why not just record your shows? That's the whole point of tivo, no need to channel surf.

    Anyways after a few months, you will be fine. I was the same coming from a cable box, my complaint was pushing 2 buttons to record instead of one but I got over it once I started recording everything.
     
  12. AdamNJ

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    So i take it you'll never leave direct tv just because you know the channel numbers? Forget about the local broadcast basics...most/every channel is going to be different across providers. Sounds stupid to me, but to each his own.
     
  13. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Yep.
     
  14. k2ue

    k2ue Retired RF Engineer

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    You are quite correct -- TW is moving its eastern markets to a uniform channel arrangement where there is one channel number for a given service, and it auto-selects HD if your box is HD (including TiVos) and HD is available, conversely SD sets on digital adapters will always get a 480i version of the channel. We get it in Rochester on 10/15. It will be so much better than trying to manually figure out which channels are redundant SD versions of HD channels, and which are different in content.

    The channels will also be grouped by type, so all the locals and networks can be surfed quickly, all free movies are grouped together, all premium movies together, all sports, etc. It will be an adjustment, but a big improvement. Plus when we cross-visit with our daughter in the Albany market we will both know just where to find everything.
     
  15. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member

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    I used to have a Comcast Motorola DVR, and I'm fairly certain that if you selected the SD version of a channel, a message would pop up alerting you to the fact that an HD version of the channel was also available. You then had the option to switch to the HD channel with a single click. It's hard to argue against this implementation.
     
  16. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    No it's not.

    1. I listed all my SD channels.
    2. Determined if there was an HD equivalent.
    3. If there was, I removed the SD channel.

    Once and done.
     
  17. Goober96

    Goober96 New Member

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    I just removed all SD channels regardless. I'm not going to watch an SD channel. That's so 80s. :)
     
  18. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    I don't see the argument against the implementation gweempose suggested in your response. All I see there is a list of steps to remove SD dups.
     
  19. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    If you remove all the SD channels with HD counterparts, there's no need for gweempose's suggestion.
     
  20. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    You(or a guest or family member) could still tune directly via channel number. If the info banner had a 'switch to hd version' option, I'd consider that to be an improved user experience, even though I too remove the sd dups.
     

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