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Any way to tell Roamio to auto tune HD channels?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by anthonymoody, Sep 5, 2013.

  1. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    Don't they pay extra for the HD channels? If so, and they're happy with SD, why pay for something they are not using? Just curious.
     
  2. Old Hickory

    Old Hickory New Member

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    Maybe they are trying to conserve 1s and 0s.
     
  3. aaronwt

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    They also pay verizon over $70 a month just for home phone service, even though they could add phone service from Comcast for around $20 or $30. If the HD channels are extra they don't really care about the extra price. And they are well into their seventies so they are pretty much set in their ways.
     
  4. AdamNJ

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    If I recall correctly, the cablevision sa8300hd only started automatically pulling the hd feed recently...like once the all digital started last year. I've had CV for over 5 years and I've always used the 700's because i specifically remember that the lower channels were not HD.

    The long and short of it is, the functionality you want isn't currently available so you will have to retrain your family. If you don't list the channels in your channel list, and change your guide to only display 'my channels' or 'favorites', then I think you family will learn soon enough. If they type 2, it tunes to 2, then they press the channel up button and it will go to the next channel u have set as available in 'my channels' or 'favorites'.
    You can certainly call up TiVo and complain and maybe one day it will be an option.
     
  5. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Aaron - come on. Your original post stated flatly "I'm glad the TiVos do not do this. I would hate this." You would hate an optional feature? No of course not bc that would be a ludicrous position to take. What you would hate is being forced to have it be different than the way you want it without being given a choice.

    And of course some people are aware they're watching SD. I never said otherwise. What I did point out is that many people watch SD without realizing this. I've observed it myself first hand on numerous occassions. And even a cursory scan of the AVS forums reveals plenty of same.

    You're being argumentative for no reason I can see other than someone having pissed in your Cheerios. Maybe your Roamio is locking up. Lighten up dude.

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    Adam - FWIW the SA8300 DVR here in Westchester Cablevision has auto tuned HD for at least the last 3 years as that's when I went back to their triple play. Based on my displays and viewing eye there's no way I would've been watching SD without knowing it.
     
  6. aaronwt

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    :confused::confused::confused:

    As I stated I would hate for a box to switch to a different channel than I choose. If there is an option to disable this then the problem is solved. It's not an issue for me.

    I never mentioned anything about an optional feature. I'm not being argumentative, just clarifying what I said since you are reading more into what I wrote. What I wrote is what I meant, there is no hidden meaning. I did not mention anything about an optional feature and an optional feature never even entered my mind when I made the post.

    The first time an optional feature entered my mind was a minute ago when I read your post.

    Of course if a feature is optional, then that is of course preferable because then people that want it can use it and people that don't want it, don't need to enable it. In the last 12+ years of recording HD and watching HD, I don't recall ever having a tuner that would tune to a different channel than I entered. If any of those devices did have that capability then I was never aware of it.

    I do know that DirecTV does something like this but when I had DirecTV for HD between 2001 and 2007 I'm not aware of any of my DirecTV STBs having this. Although I only had one DirecTV receiver that was not a TiVo. An HD STB I got in 2001. WHich I had to use to watch HD in realtime from DirecTV until the HD DirecTV TiVos came out in 2004. WHich is why most of my HD watching back then came from OTA which I recorded with a couple of HTPCs.

    EDIT: :eek::eek::eek: I just noticed in your other post you mentioned it being an option. This never even registered with me. My only thought was that it would be a feature that could not be changed. I have no idea why that is what I have been thinking all this time, but that is what I was thinking until I read your latest post.
     
  7. RSCHOON

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    I agree that this would be really nice to have as well. I just switched back to TiVo from Cablevision DVR where they had changed it so that it was all HD. Channel 2 and 702 were both HD (I will admit that I originally was annoyed with this because it caused me to waste a ton of space on the DVR with all HD shows, but now that I have so much space on my TiVo I don't care if it is all HD).

    I actually wish that you could just alias all channels. Would be nice to just move them around to whatever I wanted.
     
  8. TivoQueensDad

    TivoQueensDad New Member

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    Totally agree with you. My Roamio came yesterday to replace my Cablevision "dumb" boxes that always show the HD equivalent channel (note - they don't switch from the user's perspective - the channel is HD if you're on an HD set). I wouldn't mind if it was a straight up conversion, ie 2 --> 702, 5 --> 705. Cablevision's lineup mostly follows an "add X" but often break it with Discovery 27 --> 765, HBO 82 --> 800, SHO 84 --> 820, Cinemax 85 --> 830, Encore 350 --> 816...

    I spent Friday night downloading the Cablevision channel guide, putting it into a spreadsheet with column A the SD channel, column B the HD channel, column C HD channels with no SD equivalent, and column D music, etc (channels above 850). I then went to the channel guide and removed all SD channels that had HD equivalents.

    It doesn't seem like it would be a lot of programming to have the box know the equivalent HD to the SD channels and have a setup checkup - "always record HD when available". With 450 hours to play with, I don't think I'll be worrying about filling my hard drive any time soon.

    By the way - I realized I NEEDED to do this when I accidentally added in my season passes by accident in SD. I would have been really pissed when I sat down to watch the final 3 episodes of Dexter (In November as a family event with college kids home) only to discover that I recorded them in SD and returned my boxes that could watch Showtime On Demand.
     
  9. Rkkeller

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    I would not use a feature like this.

    I am with Comcast and it was channel 3, then it became 253, then when HD hit it is now 803. You just LEARN it.
     
  10. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Gee thanks Rkkeller :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  11. TC25D

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    Of all the software issues/improvements TiVo could/should be working on, personalized channel mapping should be at the bottom of this list, if it makes the list at all.

    Let's see...

    1. Press number on remote.
    2. Look up number pressed in a database/file kept locally to see if it's mapped to another channel.
    3. Yes, tune to mapped channel.
    4. No, tune to original channel.
    5. Write error correction routine in case the mapped channel doesn't exist.
    6. Add option to allow users with the ability to learn new channels to opt out of the overhead needed to check for a mapped channel.

    Obviously, an interface would have to be written to allow editing of this mapping.

    Yep, bottom of the list.
     
  12. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Gee thanks for the especially insightful commentary.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Trust me - if I'd wanted your opinion, I would've asked.

    Really.
     
  13. Arcady

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  14. Big Boy Laroux

    Big Boy Laroux New Member

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    You are asking for EVERYONE's opinion when you create a post on a public forum.
     
  15. swerver

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    Harsh and/or defensive crowd. Who wouldn't rather key 2 than 702 or whatever it is? He makes a pretty good point - if the crappiest of dvr's can do it, why can't tivo?
     
  16. jrtroo

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    Is this even something that a cablecard could provide? I don't see the cablecos looking to make this easy for Tivo to utilize, thus keeping it to themselves.

    Who manually enters channels anymore with a Tivo? (I know... lots of folks use live TV, even with a tivo)
     
  17. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    Clearly you're unfamiliar with how Internet forums work.

    Really.
     
  18. Big Boy Laroux

    Big Boy Laroux New Member

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    To be fair, the OP is being harsh, not the crowd. Differing opinions are allowed on the internet.

    Personally I don't have a need for such a feature, but to each their own.
     
  19. swerver

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    Maybe so. Anyway to add my 2 cents - this is really only useful for about 5 channels, so I can see that would add to its low priority status.
     
  20. anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Bzzt. Thanks for playing, and thanks for the reading comprehension fail. I specifically asked whether a particular feature was available, not what anyone thought of said feature. If people want to post their unsolicited opinions then I am more than free to call them out about it.

    I'm not being harsh at all. It's not that differing opinions aren't allowed, it's just that they weren't solicited. If I want something (like this feature), it's because I know I want it. And so I asked about it. It's not available, and so fine. It's disappointing, but it is what it is.

    What I don't need, and what shows the sort of mindless idiocy and gall of people, is instead of taking your extremely reasonable stance (don't have a need, to each their own), they take it upon themselves to "convince" me why I don't need said feature, how useless it is, how unnecessary it is, etc.

    It's like you go to Ben & Jerry's, and you order vanilla, and they happen to be out of it, and instead of simply saying they're out of it, they tell you that they don't like vanilla, that it's not good, and that chocolate is simply better.

    It's actually useful for every single channel that has an HD and SD version. I've not counted but it's something like 200 here. If you're referring to those that don't match evenly, it's still useful as has been voiced not only by me but others above (eg - who wouldn't rather tune to 2 vs 702 if they had the option?)
     

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