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Any way to preserve recordings and rewrite the TiVo software?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by EvilMidniteBombr, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    I've tried KS 56 three times and got the above error each time. The TiVo is connected via ethernet. I did pull the ethernet cable, plugged it into my laptop and verified that it does have a connection to the interwebs.
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I'd say the red is low-ish, and if there's a cap between the +5V rail and ground that hasn't been replaced I'd do so on GP, but I suspect there's a problem with the software on the 1TB that got copied to the 2TB.

    Which is why the idea of copying the kernal from the 500 to a file and then back from the file to the 2TB appeals to me.
     
  3. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    I recon I might need some instruction on how to do that. Is it possible to do using USB/SATA adapters?
     
  4. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Should be.

    Hook up the 500, boot Windows, open WinMFS, select drive, click Backup Kernel, do so.

    Either exit program, exit Windows, shut down, remove 500, hook up 2TB, reboot, open WinMFS again, select drive, click Restore Kernel, or have both drives hooked up simultaneously if you have 2 adapters and select the 500, do the backup, select the 2TB, do the restore, and shut down and try it in the Tivo.

    More on using WinMFS here:

    http://www.mfslive.org/winmfs/


    Do Not do anything to the 1TB, we need to keep that as is for now.
     
  5. mattack

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    If your Tivo boots with the drive, you can possibly get recordings off with e.g. kmttg or Tivo Desktop (latter on Windows)..

    that is, get them to a computer. Even if the Tivo is rebooting sporadically, if you can copy shows off, you may be able to get a decent amount off.
     
  6. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    thanks! that sounds easy enough. I'll get to work on it!
     
  7. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    It's getting to point that I'm starting to get grey screens when it boots. If it goes all the way through the boot process, freezing starts very soon after..
     
  8. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    No dice. I connected both the 500GB and the 2TB to my laptop with the USB/SATA cables. Made a backup of the 500GB drive kernel and restored it to the 2TB drive. (That went REALLY fast. Less than a second. Makes me wonder if it really did anything at all.)

    I installed the 2TB drive and it booted in about 5 minutes or so. I got the TiVo introduction animation and then it went to a cablecard screen. (been getting that ever since i reinstalled the original 160GB drive to do a software update. It was never paired to the M Card I use and I think it might have messed with my card pairing) Maybe a minute later it rebooted itself. I saw the "Welcome! Powering up..." for a few seconds then right into a grey screen.

    I started getting the grey screens yesterday after trying the KS codes.

    Maybe with all the KS attempts if something didn't get messed up on the 2TB drive?

    Should I try to xerox it again from the bad 1TB drive, expand, supersize, and then swap the kernel with the backup from the 500GB drive?

    Or maybe I've actually got a bad WD20EURS out of the box? I couldn't test it with the USB/SATA cables and the UBCD so I guess it could be faulty.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    At this point I'd suggest "Xeroxing" the 500 to the 2TB, no expansion, no supersize, and try that in the TiVo.

    If it behaves itself, we'll call the 2TB good, and move on from there.
     
  10. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    Will the 2TB need to be wiped before copying the 500GB onto it?

    WinMFS or jmfs?
     
  11. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    Just to see if it would work. I tried the Fix Bootpage Option 1. Still had the same problems. Tried Fix Bootpage Option 2 with same results.

    Next, I had winMFS reformat the 2TB drive. Then I tried copying the 500GB drive to the 2TB drive with winMFS. Then I started the copy. 16 hours later, it was still not done and looked like there had been no progress for a long time. So I canceled the winMFS copy and rebooted into jmfs.

    In jmfs the copy stopped with a message that "copy did not finish successfully" and gave me the option to retry, etc.

    4 or 5 restarts later, the same error happened each time.

    This leads me to believe that the new 2TB drive is bad. I think I'll return the drive to Amazon and have a replacement sent.
     
  12. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    received the replacement drive today. I think I'll copy the 500GB drive into this new 2TB drive first. Then, if that goes well, I'll probably try copying the 1TB drive onto the new drive. Overwriting the 500GB data.

    any thoughts? warnings?
     
  13. Soapm

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    I didn't read the whole thread so if this has been suggested then I apologize, you should have the previous OS on the other set of partitions. If you switch your bootpage back to those partitions you should be able to boot into that (the previous) OS. Tivo will then connect to the mothership and upgrade itself I believe after the 3rd connection.
     
  14. unitron

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    Do the copy, don't expand, try the 500 on the 2 in the TiVo, if that works okay copy the 1TB to the 2, overwriting (as long as you don't write to the 500 you can use it as a source again if necessary), try the 1 on the 2, if that works okay, then the previous 2 might have been bad.

    If that doesn't work, then there's something screwed up on the 1TB that's getting copied over.

    If so, you could try KS 58 on the 1 on the 2 and see if it can heal itself, since the hardware the software is on is presumed good.

    If that doesn't work we can try a tricky procedure where we create an HPA on the 2, making appear to be a 1, then expand to create something with the same partition map (same size partitions in the same relative place) as the 1TB, and copy just the partitions from the 1 that have the shows over to the 2.

    Then if that works we undo the HPA and expand into the rest of the 2
     
  15. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    I used jmfs to copy the 500GB to the 2TB and expand it. (sorry, unitron. I didn't read your post before I ran the copy). Everything worked fine and I have 318 hours of record time on the new 2TB drive. I re-installed it and it seems to be running fine.

    I will try to copy the 1TB to the 2TB this evening and let it run overnight. Hopefully it will go well and I'll be able to preserve the recordings, season passes and AWRLs on the 1TB drive.

    If not, I may just have to get over it and consider them lost.
     
  16. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    I copied the 1TB drive onto the new drive. jmfs reported 18 errors with and error size of 77824 bytes. so far it seems to have been a successful copy. it booted up in about 5 minutes or so. All my recordings appear to be where iI left them. :) I've yet to try watching any of them.

    It has been a couple of weeks since this (copy) drive was used so the guide data is old. That is updating now.

    I'm going to let it run for a while (probably overnight and most of tomorrow) and then take it out and super size it with jmfs.
     
  17. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    The new drive appeared to run all night. No scheduled recordings are missing or short.

    I removed it and expanded the drive with jmfs. Reinstalled and checked the system info. 318 HD hours capacity. Everything seems to indicate that the copy from the old drive was a success.

    Thanks to unitron and everyone else here that helped. You've been a great help.

    Please don't unsubscribe from this thread. Knowing my luck... I'll be back. :rolleyes:
     

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