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Announcing: TiVo Stream! Now available

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoStephen, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Did anyone find out if there was any issue with the MPEG4 recordings being sent to the Stream from the TiVo? Since some channels are in MPEG4 errr H.264. Depending on your provider.

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  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    :) I know that was directed at me. I used MPEG-4 in my post because most mobile devices are capable of playing both MPEG-4 part 2 and MPEG-4 part 10 (aka H.264, aka AVC) MPEG-4 was used as a blanket term to encompass both standards. :)

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  3. daroach74

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    This question may have been asked (I searched first, honestly!), but I couldn't find an answer. Here's my question - is this able to stream copy protected shows (like those from premium channels)? It sounds like there are two functions here: streaming and offline viewing. I'd assume that you couldn't offline view for the copy protected shows (which, in my view, is short sighted, but that's another issue), but I was wondering if you could nonetheless still stream copy protected shows (like the current premiere to premiere streaming).

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  4. innocentfreak

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    It works just like the Premiere to Premiere. Copy protected content can be streamed but not downloaded or transferred. Copy freely content can be streamed or downloaded.
     
  5. b_scott

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    Thanks. I didn't see anything about the Mini in any tech news or on the Tivo site, and I hadn't been scanning threads here. I don't see why the Tivo itself can't transcode, with it being a powerful machine, but whatever. The mini might be useful if I didn't already have two Tivos for two TVs.
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    that's the thing, it's NOT a powerful machine. It's barely got enough processing power to run it's own UI let alone transcode video. However the TiVo CEO mentioned that a future version of the TiVo would have this capability built in.

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  7. aaronwt

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    Hopefully it will be a six tuner TiVo and hopefully it will also be available for retail purchase.

    Of course I'm still hoping Android support comes out sooner rather than later for the Stream as well.
     
  8. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I hope TiVo thinks ahead next time and uses an 8 core processor. :p
     
  9. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    The more powerful you make the the TiVo the more energy it needs to draw. Everything is a trade off...

    But, I do think a single box with 6 or more tuners and a number of Mini extenders is the way to go.
     
  10. morac

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    That depends on how they design it. Modern chips which can go into a low power state when processing power isn't needed and then ramp up as needed. The big issue I would think is heat. From what I've read, the Stream gets quite hot. Put the same functionality inside the TiVo and you may have cooling issues.
     
  11. SullyND

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    For the most part, as TiVos have gotten more powerful, they have become more efficient.
     
  12. Johncv

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    TiVo will not release a six turner DVR because the tuning adapter cannot support it. I just hate the f**king TA, whenever there is an Emergency Broadcast Alert it f**k up the TiVo.
     
  13. SullyND

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    Most people do not have tuning adapters. Some TAs do support 6 tuners. MSOs, who are becoming more and more a part of TiVos customer base, do not have to worry about TAs. (TiVo has shown a 6 tuner DVR for MSOs).

    Can you hang more than one TA off a TiVo?
     
  14. aaronwt

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    For cable use it needs to stay at six. Once you exceed six tuners, then you need a second cable card.
     
  15. aaronwt

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    I would think you wouldn't have any cooling issues by having it in a larger box with a larger fan and more airflow. The stream is in very small enclosure and has a very small fan. Which is why it would be getting hot. With more space to dissipate the heat and more airflow, cooling should not be an issue.
     
  16. morac

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    True, if all you had was the stream hardware in a larger box. I was actually talking about putting an overall more powerful processor in a TiVo box.

    The Premiere has a dual core 400MHZ processor. Throw in a 3 GHz quad core or something and see how well the current fan works. :)

    Any way if TiVo used a CPU that supported dynamic frequency scaling, then it could run in low power mode for normal DVR functionality and then step up when transcoding. That way they could have a "green" DVR that also supports real time transcoding.
     
  17. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    There is no need to put a 3GHz quad core processor in a TiVo. A modest bump in clock speed and bump down in manufacturing process will pay huge dividends on a device like a TiVo. All the hard stuff, like recording, is done via specialized chips that don't need to be 3GHz to do their job. x86 chips need super high frequencies for better processing because they are mulch-purpose chips designed to do a lot of different things. With specialized chips designed specifically for one task you can be much, much, more efficient.

    Dan
     
  18. morac

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    I wasn't serious putting a 3 Ghz chip in the TiVo (hence the smiley), it was just an example.
     

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