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Android and video streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    1280x720 @ 2.24 Mbps is the best possible (which given the small sizes of iPhones + iPads is plenty).
    In download mode you can choose 3 different resolutions + rates with the above being the top resolution + rate and what is used for in home streaming. Out of home streaming is dynamic and from what I've seen never reaches the highest rate and consensus is for OOH streaming that Slingbox blows Stream away given limited bandwidth (though you can choose to download to Stream instead to get fixed/known resolution + rate).
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=511445
     
  2. milan03

    milan03 New Member

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    I'm thinking of using Roamio Plus instead of stream. Afaik Roamio Plus has full stream support.
    Which channels are blocked for OOH Live streaming?
     
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Standalone Stream and one built into Roamio Plus/Pro are identical in functionality. Any copy protected channel (non-zero CCI) is blocked for OOH streaming and/or downloading. In home those are available for streaming only but not downloading.
     
  4. tivohaydon

    tivohaydon New Member

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    I knew Android support was "coming soon" forever now but I never realized that there were OOH restrictions. Wow. Totally dilutes the feature. Sad.
     
  5. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Yep, just another case of Tivo bending over to whatever cable wants to make nice. And then they don't bother to mention this little issue in any of their website promo stuff for streaming so unsuspecting buyers on TWC etc. get screwed again, after getting screwed for so long with MRV.

    The other idiotic part is that it's perfectly ok to stream protected stuff to anything in the house, but not elsewhere even though there is a protected path to your authorized iOS devices? Really?
     
  6. humbb

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  7. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    Hmm... Just casually looking, I found 3 mentions of it (certainly not highlighted, but they are there). The front page of the TiVo stream , and then twice in the FAQ for Roamio.
     
  8. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    I would bet the delay is due to legal issues and not technical issues. We all know it's technically possible, cable card Labs, cable companies and the movie industry are most likely the biggest road blocks.

    Heaven forbid a pirated copy of Weeds episode show up on the internet that originated from a Android device. After all we all know the primary source of all those torant pirated movies all come from Android tablets! (NOT!)

    The delay is due to those who want full control of what you use for entertainment, it's not like we are trying to land men on Mars and can't figure out how. The biggest restriction of new technology reaching the consumer public is legal restraints and not absence of the technology to do so esp when copyrights are concerned.

    Even more, if Tivo wanted to cover their butts for liability issues, just charge for the Android and Apple applications and pay a percentage to whoever is holding this up. I would pay 99 cents in a heartbeat if I could stream my Tivo content to my Android devices tomorrow.
     
  9. bparker

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    Would it be better to offload the tivo recording to a server, windows 2012 server in my case, so that I can stream to whatever? Never did it, but if I did, would I need something other than a tivo to stream that to the television? Server has DLNA, media center, and similar. I store digital movies there right now.
     
  10. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

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    Better? Perhaps for some things, but the idea is to access anything on your TiVo. Why have everything somewhere else also? Or if you're traveling and something recorded last night when you weren't home?
     
  11. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    LOL, in tiny mice type at the very bottom (and this was newly added, wasn't there the last time we discussed it in the Stream forum). Typical.
     
  12. bparker

    bparker New Member

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    Well, I was thinking for the shows that it wouldn't stream to offload to somewhere else. I'm a TiVo newbie, so pardon my low system experience. Some shows are encrypted too, which is an issue. Third party application? Not sure on legalities and such forth.
     
  13. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    And again...

    No mention of it in the new 20.4 release either. Not that it needs to happen at the same time as a release, but it would have been nice.
     
  14. nycityuser

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    I gave up waiting and went ahead and purchased an iPad Mini. I already had a Kindle Fire HD and use an Android smartphone. But Verizon had a good March sale on iPads and I picked up a 32GB mini for $329. It was nice watching shows I had recorded on TiVo on an airplane trip.

    Anyway, perhaps Apple is slipping something to TiVo so they will keep away from Android. If not, they should. I had no interest in an iPad until I upgraded my TiVo equipment to the Roamio Pro in January and realized I was missing a great feature that came with it. The iPad solved the problem.
     
  15. truman861

    truman861 New Member

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    Pretty much nailed it on the head, if you are a TWC or BHN customer - Dont count on out of the house streaming unless its to another device such as a mini. I could rant on about that for the longest time ever but no point and i'm having fios installed tomorrow.
     
  16. Bytez

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    I was counting on Android support before buying the Roamio. :(
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    And I was counting on android support 1.5 years ago. I can't believe how long it's been and still no android support.
     
  18. billdav

    billdav New Member

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    I was thinking about buying a Roamio, specifically because I am interested in streaming to my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4. I thought they'd have Android support by now.

    :thumbsdown:
     
  19. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    Maybe. HDHomeRun Prime has had Android streaming since like 2012...
     
  20. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    With protected content support too (i.e., HBO). But obviously Tivo develops at a snail's pace and Silicondust does not.

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.silicondust.mg.upnp

    SiliconDust is bringing Premium Cable TV and Free to Air TV viewing to your Android devices. Finally, watch all your favorite shows on your Android phone or tablet. Watching Premium and Free to Air TV has never been easier. With the HDHomeRun® VIEW app you can access your Cable TV channels and your free to air HDTV channels on your Android device. The number of TV viewing screens in your home just got larger and more mobile. Watch Food Network in the kitchen, Discovery Channel in the garage, relax on the porch while catching up on MSNBC, and don’t miss a second of the game just take it with you, anywhere around your home network. HDHomeRun VIEW will even access your premium subscribed channels like HBO, Showtime, Starz, and Cinemax.
     

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