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Android and video streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by crxssi, Jan 13, 2014.

  1. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    True but I doubt hardware fragmentation has anything to do with this year long delay. The fact is they use a single company to handle developing their Android and iOS apps and they clearly are not able to quickly iterate. They still haven't updated their app for iOS 7 even though iOS is clearly their #1 priority.
     
  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    How do you know they use the same company for iOS and Android. I,m pretty sure they use outside developers for both apps, but this is the first I've heard that the same developers were working on both.
     
  3. rainwater

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    It is possible they are not but if you notice they never release any features on both platforms at the same time. It appears they pay the development team to create updates at different intervals. Regardless, whoever is developing their mobile apps on either platform is not putting a lot of resources into development.
     
  4. rainwater

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    I'm assuming this is who use to develop their apps but now that they are owned by PayPal, TiVo is using someone different (or doing it themselves). This is probably the reason for the delay of the Android app and the updates to the iOS app to allow mobile streaming.
     
  5. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    This.

    I appreciate that a company can't respond to every rumor. Nor reply every time someone asks something about anything. But in this case, they have already stated on the record that Android support is forthcoming. Since that was about six months ago, and one or two significant updates ago, a brief "here's what's going on" would be a very customer friendly thing to do.

    Tell me I have "x" months to go,and I wait "x" months. Don't say anything, and well... this thread is what you get.
     
  6. takeagabu

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  7. rainwater

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    The opposite is also true. If they say 3 months and it is 3.5 months, then people come here to tell us how TiVo is the worst company in the world for missing a deadline that was never meant to be public.
     
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Actually, they stated Android support was coming (but without any time indicator) when the Stream was released, 1.25 years ago. And I expected to wait at least 6 months... probably even a year. But this is getting crazy.
     
  9. bbrown9

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    I can't remember when it was but I thought I read in a thread here somewhere that Android streaming was expected in the early part of 2014 (first quarter is what stuck in my mind). It may have been in relation to the Roamio (with the builtin stream) being introduced but my memory is a little fuzzy.
     
  10. jcthorne

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    If that is a concern, Slingbox with a Mini.

    We have multiple Tivos and our slingbox is connected to one that sees little direct use, mostly for recording items with conflicts from the main Roamio.
     
  11. jcthorne

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    Simple. On Android you choose only to support the current and one rev back of AOS and include a player that works on the codecs your product streams. ALA slingbox player. Does not need to work with the built in video player. ALL android 4.1+ devices support h.264/AAC video streams up to 720p. Most also support 1080. With a simple player update they support AC3 also.
     
  12. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Please. They've only been talking about this ever since the Stream was released because they know a large number of users want it (duh). :rolleyes:

    They have completely dropped the ball here, no whitewashing is needed.
     
  13. rainwater

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    That is no longer true. Video streaming is pretty simple with Android 4.x. The Sling Player app has no problems and they are streaming from multiple different Slingboxes and it works on many, many Android devices. Honestly, with Android 4.x, TiVo really has no excuse except I doubt they have even started work on it until recently.
     
  14. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    A month later, still nothing?

    Has anyone heard anything?
     
  15. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    If it weren't winter... I would hear crickets...
     
  16. tomhorsley

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    They are probably in a constant Cable Labs reject loop as they find every technique they try to stream to android leaves the content open to rooted device capture and Cable Labs won't allow streaming (of course, I can capture protected content now if I wanted to directly from the component outputs with a video capture box, but Cable Labs has never been interested in logic).
     
  17. takeagabu

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  18. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Time for my obligatory monthly bump

    *chirp*
     
  19. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Be prepared for continued disappointment. Doesn't stop me from yelling about it on EVERY TiVo survey since the Stream came out 1.5 *YEARS* ago.
     
  20. milan03

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    Does anyone know what is the maximum bitrate for iPad or iPhone live TV streaming? Is it at least 720p? Can we tweak the bitrate?

    My FiOS upload is ~40Mbps and I've been wondering if we have granular control over the resolution, bitrate, etc...

    Thanks!
     

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