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America's Got Talent Season 7 Discussion (Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by KungFuCow, May 15, 2012.

  1. tiams

    tiams New Member

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    The producers really put a lot of good acts on the same night tonight. They must have really wanted Turf, Edon, the father-daughter act, and Hockenberry to get through.

    Howard was just downright mean to Ulysses. I was thinking about the man's children and grandchildren at home watching all proud. :(
    I also hated how he kept talking over Sharon and told her she should give up her turn to talk because America only wants to hear him. If he is a judge next year I won't be watching.

    That little Sebastian is adorable! And so were the dogs!!!! :D
     
  2. Einselen

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

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    I also hate how Howard is all about Horse but pissed at Howie for loving on Big Barry.
     
  3. tiams

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    My 9 year old figured out how Dittleman did his trick without me telling her.
     
  4. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Ok, tell me, because I'm apparently slower than your 9 year old. ;)
     
  5. tiams

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    You can open the cases from both sides. One direction says No deal and the other direction says this is your case.

    The note in the sealed envelope had a panel he moved with his finger to reveal the correct number once he knew it. You can see him use his finger to slide the panel before he turns it around.

    My daughter only figured out the first part though.
     
  6. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Yeah, I figured there was a gimmick with the "sealed" envelope, but wasn't sure what. I wasn't watching that closely, so I missed the panel movement. I guess that if he were able to genuinely have a sealed envelope with the prediction, he would (or should) have given it to an impartial observer.
     
  7. morac

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    I just rewatched it and have two problems with that:

    1. The numbers were only on one side so the case only opens one way with the number facing front. I also watched and they show the time from where he is handed the case till he opens it and he never flips the case over. That doesn't preclude some kind of switch or latch to open an extra panel in the case though.

    2. There's not enough room on the paper for 16 numbers or even 9 numbers assuming he can just add a 1 in front. The 4 was dead center and there were no seems or visible seems. I even watched him flip the card in slow mo. Also He barely slides his finger at all. maybe he simply stuck the 4 on at the last second or something.


    On an unrelated note, the cannon guy was interesting, but insanity isn't a talent. :)
     
  8. tiams

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    When Dittleman opens the case he does it by lifting the top upwards. The models open them by pulling the bottom downwards. You can see one of the models even peeks inside her case while she is opening to make sure she has done it correctly. Watch model #9.
     
  9. busyba

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    The mariachi kid was off tonight. I think he picked a bad song for his talent. He's much better belting in the higher register. He was spending too much time in the lower register and having trouble staying on pitch.

    Horse's routine was sloppily executed this time around.
     
  10. tiams

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    The number is centered because that is where the window that reveals whatever number he wants is located. The panel with all the numbers in behind it. If it is shaped in a circle there is plenty of room for all the numbers.
     
  11. morac

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    But if there was something like that it wouldn't look like the 4 was stuck on the page. I doubt such a mechanism would look seamless. Plus there would need to be a part of the wheel that stuck out to spin. Like I said he barely moved his fingers so unless he started out near 4 that wouldn't be it. If the number was at the opposite end of the wheel, operating such a mechanism would be very noticeable.
     
  12. tiams

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    You are forgetting that we do not see a continuous shot of him taking the card out of the envelope and then turning it around. The camera was off him for quite a while. Plenty of time to manipulate the card. And trust me, he manipulated the card. He didn't read Howie's mind. ;)

    I'm curious to hear how you explain it.
     
  13. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    I think there were 16 cards in the envelope.

    That being said, his hand movements as he held the card prior to turning it around seemed odd, so some kind of manipulation is possible as well.
     
  14. nataylor

    nataylor Curiously Strong TCF Club

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    Notice that when he opens the case he lays it face down and then swings the back up. All the others cases started with the back up and the face was flipped down.

    And the 4 isn't dead center. It's to the left a little bit. Almost like it might have been added to the paper after it was pulled out of the envelope, but before he turned it around for the audience to see.
     
  15. morac

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    Which is what I posted as my theory. :)
     
  16. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    I'm still not entirely certain how the envelope part worked... I don't know if it's a slider, but there was definitely some sort of sleight of hand with that. I'm betting you guys are right, though, about the briefcases; open it one way (or with one set of latches), it shows one thing, open it a different way it shows something else.

    I think the fact that we're still talking about it, even though we've all got a good idea how we think at least part of the illusion worked, means that his is a pretty good act. He should go through, along with the earth harp. After that, I'd say Lindsey Norton, and Unity in Motion to round out the 4 moving on.

    ETA: and I haven't been watching... how in the heck did Horse get even this far? A live action version of "Ow! My Balls!" from Idiocracy? Really?
     
  17. morac

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    Three words. Judge Howard Stern.

    And Idiocracy was the first thing I thought of when he initially went through.
     
  18. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

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    Watch Dittelman spin the case around before opening it. There is a red velvet lining on both sides of the inside of each briefcase -- for a good reason.

     
  19. bryhamm

    bryhamm randomize

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    Agreed to the bolded. How did these get grouped the way they did? A bunch of these would stay if they had competed in the other group.
     
  20. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

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    One of the offhand comments by Howard during the judging makes me think that it was a random draw, but I don't think there's been any official disclosure about it.
     

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